Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
Please direct me to where I said people should observe everything and that it was even possible. I think you'll find I said no such thing.

I said some things can be spotted without a parser. Not everything. I also said some things are too subtle to spot without a parser or you may too busy to see it yourself. I even said several times that parsers are excellent tools for this.

I agree that being expected to watch everything is nonsense...hence why I didn't say it!
You said to watch the effects and animations that are occurring from other players when anyone could have had other player animations turned off. You also tried to make it seem like all you need is "personal observation" during a savage raid, when your main focus and observations should be on what the boss is casting and the mechanics that are occurring. Most people don't even check the logs for basic dungeons and old content unless someone is causing the party to fail repeatedly. You admit that a parser can help point out the things that you won't catch, and those small or uncaught mistakes is what can end an ultimate raid. So what were you correcting again? Because it seems like you're deliberately misreading what I'm posting.

Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
My apologies. I just had someone else accuse me of stating players should be able to watch everything in combat and spot all mistakes without a parser when I said no such thing and I even said parsers are great tools for this. I feel like they're deliberately misreading what I say.
You asking everyone else to babysit someone who doesn't even know how to play their class properly or even have proper gear at endgame is what is insulting. Yeah, the game has a bunch of little things happening all at once, wonder if you should be watching for players who aren't playing/geared properly or actually focusing on the fight instead.


Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
But let's not suggest that parsers are the only way of seeing whether someone is pressing the right buttons or not, because that is simply not true.
Of course it's not, so what's your point anyway? My initial examples were taken from another players logs so I'm obviously talking about just the parser data. Not your personal observations in a basic duty where you don't even need a parser to see who is bad.