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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerlana View Post
    Yes, watching logs for example. logs not only show "the top players" you can see the DPS at the 75 percentil. it is the DPS where 25% people are doing more, and 75% are doing less.
    Right now, if i watch on FFlogs for O9S, the DPS of the 75th percentil is from 5900 (ninja) to 6900 (samurai).
    Now, lets go to O9S savage, mechanics are done well, but third try, third wipe on enrage. you see your parser, and find a samurai with 4k5 DPS... Yes he is bad. Now here is the deal
    1) i says him to move his ass and get better DPS => toxic because i want him to play better
    2) i kick him to take a new melee that will do enough damages => toxic because i kick
    3) i stay with him, without saying anything, hoping a miracle.
    4) disband

    You want the 3, you choice. Me i prefer first saying him he has to be better, and if it doesnt show any improvement, sadly ill kick him...



    Now for farms situation same logic. i go watch the 75th percentil because i want to farm fast. (so get some quite fast clear) DPS are from 5k to 5k8. if i find the kills quite slow, and see a guy at 4k...


    FUN FACT : no need to FFlogs most of time to see there is a matter... i never used worldoflogs (or warcraftlogs now) to know it when i was raid lead.
    Just, i see some people really far behind... like a healer doing half the work the others are doing. or a DPS doing far less than any other. Rarely i had situation where i had doubt and had to mind about strength/weakness of the class on this fight.


    When anyone create a party, HE decides the rules. if he decides to get only elite people, over the 90th percentil, or really open minded and take anyone over the 25th percentil, it is his matter.
    Where is the toxicity there? because i am not enough openminded to carry anyone thru the farm or in the savage content? It is this the "toxicity" you fear about official parser?
    None of that matters, those logs are based on whoever has logs not every player of the class or what is the limit that class can do in any given fight. Its already biased that 4.9k isn't dead weight you needed it to clear the fight unless you think your pumping out enough damage to clear current content with a dps dead on the floor the entire time.

    That said kicking people because they don't meet your standards in not the problem nor what anyone was talking about its how you do it. Most of people are not gonna be like "hey your damage is too low we want faster kills bye" Most are gonna be "lol trash sam with 4.5k dps learn your rotation insult x y and z." will all of them be like those two examples no of course not but those will increase. People already do these but they hardly say it to the persons face they just say it to their fcs and linkshells. this games community kinda runs on hear no evil see no evil and you and others don't do it openly because of the very real chance you get banned for a few days. That's the toxicity people in this thread are referring too.
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    Last edited by thegreatonemal; 10-03-2018 at 03:09 AM.