How would an optional, official parser be toxic?

[KaivaC]

Why are you doing farm parties in pf with randoms though? If you can't get 8 people together to do it, you need to spend less time griping about carries and more time making friends. The raiders in this game are odd that way; no one expects to speedkill stuff over and over in the hardest content in the game with randoms. Yet in this game they complain when it happens. In most other games, if you want to do this you do it with a guild specifically designed for endgame raiding.

Riyah, if you couldn't even clear v3s to even see said farm parties, why are you here trying to preach what etiquette should be?

[MageBlack]

Love this thread, It answers its own question and not in the way it set out to. But carry on arguing guys! I got a fresh bowl of popcorn!

[RiyahArp]

Then how about you stop demanding everyone else to carry the scrubs that don't know how to play and take the initiative to get better. The fix is to point out what those scrubs are doing wrong in the first place which will be easier to do with a parser.

I never argued anyone should be carried. I am arguing that if you expect people to get better as solution, it's never going to happen. You can only change yourself, and choose who you hang around with. If you rely on random people, you get random results. If you think the devs can fix that, you're going to get disappointed.

I'm going to be honest, I do not care if a person fails to improve even if a parser was added. I care about having a tool that allows me to weed out the dead weight easier. The faster I can weed the garden, the sooner I can put the bad player on my blacklist and never have to deal with them again.

Then over time you will end up in a static by default, because you'll get tired of that and just play with people you trust, which solves that problem a lot better than constantly blacklisting people.

Actually...yeah, we can.

Yeah, you can kick. but you can't expect all random people to be good. You have to accept that a lot will be bad or mediocre. A lot of people here are really wanting to solve people being bad at the hardest content in the game, and that's not going to happen.

[Sigma-Astra]

This is exactly what we want to do though. I don't know why you can't understand this.

It's Riyah, that's why. If we ask for the rest of the players to have the common decency and courtesy to read shit before they click on it, apparently we're the bad guys and that's asking for far too much.

Basic reading comprehension is a must-have, not an optional privilege in party finder.