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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    Valid points, however what that 2 minutes saves some raid wide aoes no major mechanics were skipped or cut short. it varies from fight to fight A11s for example optimizing can lead you to skipping the entire add phase and a bunch of other things in between. Most fights are not this its my own opinion that if you aren't skipping anything major then whats the real benefit of doing other than because you can? There isn't one.
    Well, if you consider that we all have a limited time on this Earth, it is not unreasonable to be the type of person who wants to optimize the time they have. This is especially true when you are constantly farming an EX primal for a certain mount or if you have a certain block of time set aside to raid. I personally only set aside 2 hours in 3 days of the week total to raid. Optimization to save that time is quite desirable by someone like me. Besides, even if it is a small time save, in this case 2 minutes, it can definitely add up over time and become a big save. As they say, all it takes is one step to determine a future.

    As for a parser, I do not believe there is anything problematic with the tool itself. The problem, as I foresee it, lies in the maturity of the player base at large. Naturally, information is power, especially if you are given information about other people and not just yourself. How would you make sure that this power is in the right hands? I believe this is why SE is supremely hesitant to give us an official parser. Obviously, this doesn't mean -everybody- who'd use it would be immature with it but if there is enough immaturity, I can see it destabilizing the game all because of the information gathered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreameR7g View Post
    Well, if you consider that we all have a limited time on this Earth, it is not unreasonable to be the type of person who wants to optimize the time they have. This is especially true when you are constantly farming an EX primal for a certain mount or if you have a certain block of time set aside to raid. I personally only set aside 2 hours in 3 days of the week total to raid. Optimization to save that time is quite desirable by someone like me. Besides, even if it is a small time save, in this case 2 minutes, it can definitely add up over time and become a big save. As they say, all it takes is one step to determine a future.

    As for a parser, I do not believe there is anything problematic with the tool itself. The problem, as I foresee it, lies in the maturity of the player base at large. Naturally, information is power, especially if you are given information about other people and not just yourself. How would you make sure that this power is in the right hands? I believe this is why SE is supremely hesitant to give us an official parser. Obviously, this doesn't mean -everybody- who'd use it would be immature with it but if there is enough immaturity, I can see it destabilizing the game all because of the information gathered.
    Sure if your in a set group speedrunning becomes useful and parser can speed of the process of optimization. No one here has any issues with that. The thing is unless all 8 of you do that you aren't saving any time that's just not how this game works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    Sure if your in a set group speedrunning becomes useful and parser can speed of the process of optimization. No one here has any issues with that. The thing is unless all 8 of you do that you aren't saving any time that's just not how this game works.
    I agree with you. This is why it is important to find like-minded individuals in order to further your goals. You cannot assume everybody will have the same goal as you. Aspects like the Duty Finder are not the place to force your ideals onto others. Simply adapt and work with what you have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreameR7g View Post
    I agree with you. This is why it is important to find like-minded individuals in order to further your goals. You cannot assume everybody will have the same goal as you. Aspects like the Duty Finder are not the place to force your ideals onto others. Simply adapt and work with what you have.
    Or, if you have enough people that agree with you, kick the people that can't keep up.
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