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    Player RiyahArp's Avatar
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    Riyah Arpeggio
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Currently, V11N is a great gatekeeper.
    You can lie on the floor for all of it, pass it, and then get savage after beating 12. So no, it isn't. The larboard thing can even be ignored with the right classes; i can soak both hits as healer because i have 44k hp and just heal myself in between hits; the 2 def down stacks wont kill you unless you mess up far easier mechanics. A gatekeeper will be much harder than that, though.
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    JohnSpawnVFX's Avatar
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    Kaynneth Menad
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    You can lie on the floor for all of it, pass it, and then get savage after beating 12. So no, it isn't. The larboard thing can even be ignored with the right classes; i can soak both hits as healer because i have 44k hp and just heal myself in between hits; the 2 def down stacks wont kill you unless you mess up far easier mechanics. A gatekeeper will be much harder than that, though.
    So are we talking about finding a way to not stop people being able to go into content they don't have the skill for, or people going into content they know fully well they don't master but still going anyway? Otherwise why would someone attempt to go into Savage if they don't know how to deal with O11?

    Not to mention there are people complaining of being unable to actually clear O11 due to bad performance of mostly the whole party.
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    Player RiyahArp's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    So are we talking about finding a way to not stop people being able to go into content they don't have the skill for
    I think essentially a solo ex fight. You want it solo so you can't be carried, and ex fight because a dummy isn't enough and you need mechanics that oneshot you. if 011n was a gatekeeper so was a12n; the last alex fight even on normal was a bit of a difficulty spike back then.
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    Baradaeg Ryssbhirwyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    You can lie on the floor for all of it, pass it, and then get savage after beating 12. So no, it isn't. The larboard thing can even be ignored with the right classes; i can soak both hits as healer because i have 44k hp and just heal myself in between hits; the 2 def down stacks wont kill you unless you mess up far easier mechanics. A gatekeeper will be much harder than that, though.
    Nope, a gatekeeper would be in that difficulty, just you were solo and it would be different for each role or job, so vuln stack but a 100% healing negotiation for healers.
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