How would an optional, official parser be toxic?

[KaldeaSahaline]

I really rather people not see how garbage I am because I already know I'm garbage. >> At least without a parser, they can't tell 100% just how awful I am. |: I don't mind if I could see my own or if people could see their own, but I don't like other people seeing my over all performance number/statistics wise and then judging me and comparing me to others based on that. I think it has a lot of potential for bullying/harassment/exclusion/little-to-no room for growth if consistently excluded, etc.

Why not try and become less garbage then? I don't mean this in a hostile fashion, it's a legitimate question and I'm genuinely curious.

I mean, do you truly believe that you should receive the same rewards/consideration as someone who puts more effort in/is more skilled?

Do you echo that sentiment in the real world? If not, that's awfully hypocritical.

I mean... this is what we have to deal with without an in game parser...and you know this griefer has ACT.

Neither of you were really toxic IMO, but if I had to stretch my personal definition I'd argue you were worse (if I am reading it right). You deliberately dragged the fight out with the intent to antagonize another player who had asked you to just reset. Him indicating that you have weak gear/no materia and not having any clears (which I assume is him looking you up on FFLogs) is not toxic, if anything it appears to be an objective factual statement regardless of its negative connotation.

You then assume this player is running ACT based on some arbitrary metric that you yourself developed with no supporting evidence, and then used that to broadly paint an entire subset of players who use the tool successfully and publicly with no issue as toxic.

Now mind you - I'd have supported you trying to solo it, unless it was at a very high HP %, which you indicated it was not.

[RuleofThree]

Neither of you were really toxic IMO, but if I had to stretch my personal definition I'd argue you were worse (if I am reading it right). You deliberately dragged the fight out with the intent to antagonize another player who had asked you to just reset. Him indicating that you have weak gear/no materia and not having any clears (which I assume is him looking you up on FFLogs) is not toxic, if anything it appears to be an objective factual statement regardless of its negative connotation.

You then assume this player is running ACT based on some arbitrary metric that you yourself developed with no supporting evidence, and then used that to broadly paint an entire subset of players who use the tool successfully and publicly with no issue as toxic.

Now mind you - I'd have supported you trying to solo it, unless it was at a very high HP %, which you indicated it was not.

You are reading it right, but it's without context. Him telling me I have weak gear, no materia, and no clears was happing during my attempt to salvage the fight. His insinuations incited my threat to 'troll' the last thousand hp. That was never, nor ever would be my intentions. Soloing the last 5% of a boss, in my eyes, would be a thrill that would take a while for me to come down on...it so rarely happens...I wouldn't willingly mess that chance up for an asshat. When you are angered, you tend not to think clearly. I don't condone my response with regards to my first response, regret it even...but what's done is done.

And you made the very same assumption yourself. I mean, I guess it could stand the reason that he utilizes FFlogs for information, but doesn't actually have the parser...but that's a bit far fetched isn't it? You assumed he made the last comment based on looking at the FFlogs website, much like my assumption that he is using ACT himself...we will never truly know...but a bit of the pot calling the kettle black there.

And you are right, the definition of toxic is subjective. Personally? I'm not really a fan of having someone throw my obvious flaws in the face of everyone present. Everyone has the examine function, everyone can see that I don't spec out dark night, everyone knows I am iLevel 360 gear. Why bring it up, if but to be an asshat? I'm not a fan of being called 'utter garbage' and a 'waste of time' just because a website, of which I have opted out on showing information for, doesn't reveal information about me.

Regardless, he is right, I don't have a clear in the new savage. i took a haitus from this game since 4.1, and came back a week before 4.4 hit. I don't have access to 370 to get in to savage, and won't for at least a few months with SE's ridiculous 450 a week cap. I don't have the money to drop to get in to savage so quickly. But again, our definition of 'toxic' is different. Even if I did have a clear on savage, and did opt in for my character to show on FFlogs...it would be as white mage, which would be completely irrelavent information to my undergeared dark knight. If anything it would show him why I have an undergeared dark knight....I focus on white mage.