How would an optional, official parser be toxic?

[Maeka]

I stance dance even in regular dungeons. It promotes faster clears. I explained in an above post why faster clears are better.

Are there times when you tank in grit/swordoath/etc?

Sure. There are.

But if youre doing it every boss fight, all the time, rationalizing "This is easier on healers," than its not so much that youre considering other players as much as youre just being lazy. If youre talkinga bout trash mobs and using grit? Yeah, thats expected. Maybe clarity on my part was needed. You run grit on trash pulls if your big pulling and what not. Im more talking about Boss fights.

Also, if we want better DPS, its time for them to learn they have to aggro dump. Staying in tank stance is just promoting the idea to DPS/Heals they dont need to learn to aggro dump and manage their aggro. It's a good time for everyone to start learning that this isnt about segmented roles. DPS and Heals have just as much to do with threat management as the tanks, much like tanks having to be concerned with DPS and dmg mitigation. If youre just playing it as "Im tank, only thing I do is get punched in the face and nothing more", youre limiting your engagement with the game.

Depends on the boss too.

Had a warrior stay in DPS stance on Mist Dragon, and lemme tell you, I wish I could reach through the screen and click his Defiance button, seriously.

I have enough problems with that stupid dragon, I don't need a tank taking 20% more damage because he's in DPS stance.

[Melichoir]

There are considerations, so Ill admit that.

However, tank stance on all the time should not be the default mindset. If your healer is struggling really hard, yeah, tank stance may be a good option. If youre extremely undergeared and unfamiliar with the class, yes, tank stance is a solution to that problem. It should not be the go to solution in every case. Which is the point Im trying (but failing) to make.

This game, as it stands, is not designed for "Tank stance all night long". Its designed for certain things and situations, but broadly, you should be in DPS stance doing dps, and if necessary using tank stance as a cooldown for busters. Again, theres a lot of factors at play here. This will also mean yes, healers will have to get better, and DPS will have to to.

As an example: Tank is decently geared, and understands their class and role, and is doing boss mechanics 100% correctly. If theyre still dying, it is because of one of a few reasons:

1) Healer is not great geared and is struggling
2) Healer does not know their class effectively to work well with the tank
3) Healer is over taxed due to DPS eating every piece of damage and not trying to help with mitigation.

Two of the three of those issues can be improved by better players. DPS who mitigate damage/do mechanics right to reduce healing necessary, and healers who better understand their class to work well and more efficiently during heal intensive fights. This is why I think we need to start promoting the idea players need to improve, and stop making excuses. That means tnaks need to learn stance dancing and their class decently, DPS need to learn threat management and how not to eat damage, healers need to be better about how to manage heals on tanks and dps.

Im not saying every healer is a baddy, or dps, or tank. Rather among the more casual base, there is a bit of apathy towards the idea of learning to be a mean efficient healer/dps/tank. And if we want to stop having "baddies" in our groups, then we need to start promoting the idea of people getting better. So yeah, in the terms of tanking, that means not relying on tank stance as your bread and butter.