How would an optional, official parser be toxic?

[RuleofThree]

One form of dead give away: tanking in tank stance for the entirety of the fight (Game in its current iteration is not designed for tanks to stay in tank stance the entire fight, but to use it as a cooldown or to grab initial enmity).

No. Just...no.

1) Person might not be comfortable stance dancing. Losing hate on a boss is much more troublesome than someone not wanting to get out of tank stance. In fact, if they aren't comfortable stance dancing, I welcome them to stay in tank stance, rather than risk the boss tankbusting a dps.

2) Tank might be a good tank, but undergeared. Not everyone can drop the millions upon millions of gill for the i380 crafted gear. And given that it's only the end of week 1, most people are going to have an i390 creation ring...at best. Just because you might be on O11S already, doesn't mean everyone else is.

[Melichoir]

No. Just...no.

1) Person might not be comfortable stance dancing. Losing hate on a boss is much more troublesome than someone not wanting to get out of tank stance. In fact, if they aren't comfortable stance dancing, I welcome them to stay in tank stance, rather than risk the boss tankbusting a dps.

2) Tank might be a good tank, but undergeared. Not everyone can drop the millions upon millions of gill for the i380 crafted gear. And given that it's only the end of week 1, most people are going to have an i390 creation ring...at best. Just because you might be on O11S already, doesn't mean everyone else is.

Le sigh.

My gear is not 'Gil Dropped Over melded 380+ crafted gear'. Im running 360-370 Ryumaki and Diamond with two 380 pieces from Alphascape, and the Suzu Ex weapon primarily. Ive not bought any Genesis gear yet. I still tank outside of Grit in Content Im clearing. Why? Because the fights are designed for it and Im a good tank who has learned how to do it with healers who have learned how to heal tanks outside of grit with DPS who have learned to DPS with tanks who arent using grit. We're not having problems.

People like you are only proving you do not know the mechanics of the class.

So let me just break it down easy for you:

Enmity should not be an issue for you in the current tier, particularly, because after getting initial aggro, your DPS should keep hate so long as your teams DPS is using proper aggro Dumps AND your OT is circle shirking with you. In a proper group, I very VERY rarely have enmity issues, and if it does occur, it is almost ALWAYS my fault for not doing something I shouldve been doing. And if DPS arent using aggro dumps, be a good tank and tell them to use them. And btw, Tank busters are there to force you to perform certain actions. There are no single target tank busters which will kill you unless its intended to do so because you failed a tank swap. You can cooldown through all of htem wihtout tank stance. And hey, guess what! You can turn your tank stance back ON if you really want to! Imagine that! Using tank stance LIKE A CD!

And you dont get comfortable doing something unless you practice. Its literally "Git Gud". 'Cause guess what. I used to play the way you suggest. So I know full well that feeling of being told "Dont tank in tank stance." But I wanted to raid, and I wanted to be better, so I actually practiced tanking outside of tank stance. And guess what, its not that hard. If anything, its funner. Dont come up to me telling me that "A good tank plays in Tank stance!" cause thats not the way it is. Thats real beginner way of thinking in the game as it currently is. You want better tanks (and better players), its about encouraging them to start doing things that theyre not comfortable doing and learning how to manage. That makes better players. Telling tanks to stay in tank stance cause its "easier" just keeps tanks in the dark about how to be a better, more proactive tank. It also keeps them from attempting harder content because the better players wont play with a tank who cant stance dance.

[RuleofThree]

Le sigh indeed....couple things

My gear is not 'Gil Dropped Over melded 380+ crafted gear'.

I'm gonna call this even right here. We both erred. I presumed you were a hardcore balls to the wall, paramilitary 'DO IT MY WAY' type. Oops. Sorry, jumped the gun on that one....

People like you are only proving you do not know the mechanics of the class.

...Or did I? This is why I say we are even. I assumed something that wasn't correct about you...your gear, my bad, but you are going to assume I don't know how the basics of the game works? I'm currently in the process of farming for the new(er) tank mounts. I'm starting with the Dark Knight, only because I hate Warrior so much that I want to put it off for as long as possible. I know how tanking works. I drop tank stance just like (most) everyone else during bosses, and just like (most) everyone else, get a little miffed when dps don't bother to use diversion...but I manage. I won't raid with my tanks...I like tanking (on paladin), but not enough to raid...so it's only logical for you to know the finer points better than me - a person that is merely trying for his tank mounts. But to assume that I know nothing? Let alone the basics of the game? C'mon.

What I do know, is that my tanks came in to Burn and Arboretum at i350ish, all accessories and belt was gear from O1 and O2S, cause the weekly limit was gone, might as well get what you can, right? Plus I took a hiatus from this game, so I was not in Mendacity gear. In this i350ish gear, all I can say is...even after establishing hate and following rotations like a good little dark knight. Higher geared hardcore players devastated me when trying to keep hate. To the point where At about 20%, I had to go back in to Tank Stance, to ensure I didn't make an even bigger ass of myself, and lose tank aggro.

So Whatever you have on paper, and in theory, works only there. Were you the tank in that situation? I have no doubt in my mind you would have popped a Superior Strength Potion or whatever the hell you use mid rotation in order to maximize your deeps, yo, and maybe set a world record for keeping hate against i380 pentamelded allies, while in i350 gear, in The Burn. You're a pro. Have a cookie.

And you dont get comfortable doing something unless you practice.

And you don't practice anything in this game, unless you want to get mocked and ridiculed for it. Case and point: Here I am siting reasons (and I'm not the only one) as to why someone might tank stance a boss (I'm not even talking extreme/savage bosses here, because the average player doesn't do those), and I admit, I had a little bite in my comment, maybe incited a bit of bite in return...but lo and behold...Suddenly I'm a guy that doesn't understand how Enmity works. I'm a lowly pleb pleading his case amongst the elite masses. This is why people don't practice, unless among friends or friendly FC...because if they did it in front of strangers...they'd get torn a new asshole for being bad.

I mean, for Christ's sake, look no further than pugging an extreme trial. I can count on one finger (Yes, one finger, not hand. I did that on purpose) how many extreme trials I have been in that last at best three attempts, before muttering about how it was a trap party, or if we are lucky, they just leave outright without saying anything. This is a clear example of how people will take any opportunity to shit on someone for trying.

Its literally "Git Gud". 'Cause guess what. I used to play the way you suggest. So I know full well that feeling of being told "Dont tank in tank stance." But I wanted to raid, and I wanted to be better, so I actually practiced tanking outside of tank stance. And guess what, its not that hard.

First. I didn't suggest it. I merely sited reasons as to why someone might do it. Me having to keep reminding you of this is certainly becoming a running motif in this discussion, isn't it?

Second. Good. I'm glad you are playing with the big boys and girls. Visualize your dreams, and go for them, I say. I mean, when I bit the bullet and finally tried my hand at stance dancing, it was like a sense of accomplishment. A trophy on the wall! But at least realize they are just your dreams...not everyone else's.

funner.

Not a word. Don't get me wrong, I typo with the best of 'em, and I am by far not an English expert. Just stood out, and it bothered me.

Dont come up to me telling me that "A good tank plays in Tank stance!" cause thats not the way it is.

I didn't? I never once defended that playing in tank stance is the way to play. I merely sited reasons as to why people might do it. But it's ok...alot of people misunderstand me.

Anyway. Yea...you know what the say about arguing on the internet...eventually it all leads back to Hitler. (Godwin's Law, if you aren't aware of that expression.) We can just forget this ever took place.

Lastly: I know I used 'sited' instead of 'cited.' But this is a long post, and I'm too lazy to fix it. So...there's two things for you to use when you make a retort to this post 1) How I spelt cited wrong, and 2) How I'm lazy, which somehow you will link to me being a bad player.

You don't have to use those...I just thought I'd help this internet argument along

[Nyvara]

Lastly: I know I used 'sited' instead of 'cited.' But this is a long post, and I'm too lazy to fix it. So...there's two things for you to use when you make a retort to this post 1) How I spelt cited wrong, and 2) How I'm lazy, which somehow you will link to me being a bad player.

I totally want to make this my Sig!

[RuleofThree]

I totally want to make this my Sig!

I...I don't know if you are asking for permission...or weren't serious...or what. So I guess I'll just say....go for it?

[Melichoir]

...Or did I? This is why I say we are even. I assumed something that wasn't correct about you...your gear, my bad, but you are going to assume I don't know how the basics of the game works? I'm currently in the process of farming for the new(er) tank mounts. I'm starting with the Dark Knight, only because I hate Warrior so much that I want to put it off for as long as possible. I know how tanking works. I drop tank stance just like (most) everyone else during bosses, and just like (most) everyone else, get a little miffed when dps don't bother to use diversion...but I manage. I won't raid with my tanks...I like tanking (on paladin), but not enough to raid...so it's only logical for you to know the finer points better than me - a person that is merely trying for his tank mounts. But to assume that I know nothing? Let alone the basics of the game? C'mon.

Ill give you that Im being a touch overzealous, but I have my reasons. Saying people should stay in tank stance cause theyre not comfortable tanking is promoting bad tanks, or that they need high lvl gear to do the content. The game allows you to do something, and you choosing not to do it cause its easier for you is making things harder for others. This would be like saying "Im never going to use Cooldowns, cause I know that healers and DPS can use mitigation on the boss, so I dont have to really use any mitigation myself and just DPS."

You could do that, but you are hamstringing and burdening your DPS and heals for things YOU can do. The same is in reverse. YOU can also do decent DPS. If youre doing 1k DPS cause youre stuck in the mindset "I gotta stay in Grit cause its safer and easier", all youre doing is burdening your DPS and Healers to do MORE DPS to cover your short comings. And If both you and the other tank are only doing 2K combined, your forcing an addition 4-6K dps onto teh rest of the group. That is a huge amount of DPS to overcome. We all can talk about how we want better players, but if we dont stop with the "Stay where its comfortable mentality" people wont get better. I speak from experience on that. I stayed where it was comfy for so long. Probably to long. And I missed out on so much because of it. Admittedly, we dont need to be brusque about the issue, which Im guilty of, but it seriously needs to stop molly coddling players and just being straight wtih them. You can sit in tank stance and tank the entire fight in it, but you are not a great tank if you do. You are mediocre at best, and a beginner at worst. And experienced tanks (and players) can see this really quickly.

What I do know, is that my tanks came in to Burn and Arboretum at i350ish, all accessories and belt was gear from O1 and O2S, cause the weekly limit was gone, might as well get what you can, right? Plus I took a hiatus from this game, so I was not in Mendacity gear. In this i350ish gear, all I can say is...even after establishing hate and following rotations like a good little dark knight. Higher geared hardcore players devastated me when trying to keep hate. To the point where At about 20%, I had to go back in to Tank Stance, to ensure I didn't make an even bigger ass of myself, and lose tank aggro.

So Whatever you have on paper, and in theory, works only there. Were you the tank in that situation? I have no doubt in my mind you would have popped a Superior Strength Potion or whatever the hell you use mid rotation in order to maximize your deeps, yo, and maybe set a world record for keeping hate against i380 pentamelded allies, while in i350 gear, in The Burn. You're a pro. Have a cookie.

Its not about being pro, there are a lot of factors in your experience that need to be explained. As a point, did the following occur?:

1) Were you weaving in DAPS into your rotation every few combos to maintain a hate lead?
2) If you know the DPS are heavily geared, did you do a double DAPS opener in grit? (Definitely not the ideal, but it is a thing)
3) Were your DPS, with all their pro sauce dps, using aggro dumps or were they being jerks and just straight DPSing?
4) Were you riding oGCDs hard?
5) What is your weapons iLvl?

Part of the key to tanking out of Grit is doing good dps on top of threat management from your end. It is a lot harder for a DPS to overtake you in threat if youre a lot closer to them in it. Having a good threat lead with heavy dps goes a long way too, so establishing a lot of hate early on makes a difference. I get your experience. I know that feeling when your pushing yourself to the max just to keep threat from some DRG or SAM doing massive damage. Its a pain in the ass. But its not impossible to do it out of Grit, as again, I have done it after learning to do it. And it takes practice.

And on a more relevant note: IF youre going into new content at the bare minimum iLvL, yeah, its gonna be a struggle, and yeah, youre going to have to pull out all the stops. And heres the kick: The better you understand your class and what you can do, the less of a struggle you will have. Thats how it is actually done. Thats why you dont need 380 full melded crafted gear to do o9s and Suzaku EX. You can do those fights in lesser gear because if youre good and you know your class and you learn hte mechanics, the ultimate worry then becomes the enrage, which is your DPS check. This is why knowing things and really studying your class makes a difference. It makes having the gear requirement less important. It is, dont get me wrong, but I think you place so much emphasis on gear and not enough on knowing the nuance class you play.

And you don't practice anything in this game, unless you want to get mocked and ridiculed for it. Case and point: Here I am siting reasons (and I'm not the only one) as to why someone might tank stance a boss (I'm not even talking extreme/savage bosses here, because the average player doesn't do those), and I admit, I had a little bite in my comment, maybe incited a bit of bite in return...but lo and behold...Suddenly I'm a guy that doesn't understand how Enmity works. I'm a lowly pleb pleading his case amongst the elite masses. This is why people don't practice, unless among friends or friendly FC...because if they did it in front of strangers...they'd get torn a new asshole for being bad.

Im not part of an elite mass. At the very best, Im a little above mediocre. I make plenty of mistakes and am still learning the class. However, Im talking down to you because you (or rather people more broadly) are promoting a bad way of thinking. You are giving people excuses to rationalize being mediocre. Its the "Its not my fault, its really 'x's fault". X being gear, or dps who dont know better, or bad healers, or bad game mechanics or dungeon design. And it makes me upset because I was exactly one of those people who subscribed to that. "How could anyone tank out of tank stance! Thats stupid! Were tanks, not DPS!" or "I tank in tank stance cause its easier on the healers, and I dont have to worry about threat!". Or whatever excuse I had. I bought those ideas cause I was being lazy about actually putting in the effort to be better. And it was made all the more easier by fellow tanks telling me things like what you point out.

As a point, burdening your DPS to cover your DPS loss means the fight goes on longer, which means youll run a greater risk of hitting Enrage, or messing up mechanics thatll kill your team. Every time you have to repeat a mechanic, thats another chance you could wipe. And trust me, it is way way easier for you to push out +2k more DPS by knowing your class then it is for a DPS to push that volume out if they already know their class. Chances are, at this far in the xpac, youre not doing favors to your DPS or Heals by that way of thinking. Particularly if people want fast clears.

And yes, you DO practice in this game. A lot. You want to learn proper rotations and make sure you dont triple weave or do silly things: You practice on Training Dummies. You want to learn to tank out of Grit? You do it in dungeons on bosses. You awnt to practice cooldown usage and actually getting comfortable with healers keeping you topped, you play without the training wheels (when appropriate; you obviously do not mass pull out of grit on trash mobs, as a point. So Grit does have a purpose there...). You want to play the game better, you read up on the class, ask questions, and practice. Thats how you do it. And if you dont think you dont practice, consider how you play now vs how you first started. I bet you you play better now than then, simply because youve been playing the game, accruing experience. That is, more or less, practice. And believe me or not, teh amount of complete jerks who'll get pissy about you trying to be a better tank isnt that much. If you tell most players youre trying to get better, theyll say Ok. Particularly if you ask them "Hey, can you do this for me during the fight? Itd help." And if they still give you crap, well theyre garbage and not worth your time as it were. If youre being reasonable, and polite, most people who play will be cool with you. Cause frankly, other than fast clears, people want to play with cool players, not dicks (and that irony is not lost upon me right now).

Good. I'm glad you are playing with the big boys and girls. Visualize your dreams, and go for them, I say. I mean, when I bit the bullet and finally tried my hand at stance dancing, it was like a sense of accomplishment. A trophy on the wall! But at least realize they are just your dreams...not everyone else's.

Yeah, I got that feeling too. It was amazing. And, for me, made the game that much funner. I had more options at my dispense, and I felt more accomplished as a result.

However, yes, those are my goals. To be better. And if thats not someones goal, that is there choice, and is fine by me. But do not expect me or other players to say that you are a good or great tank when you settle for mediocre. Hamstringing your ability to perform out of some arbitrary reason does not warrant praise. You can be an ok tank. If thats all you want to be, then ok. Just be honest about it and really dont tell other tanks who know their role the "what-for".

Anyway. Yea...you know what the say about arguing on the internet...eventually it all leads back to Hitler. (Godwin's Law, if you aren't aware of that expression.) We can just forget this ever took place.

Well, im not going to call you Hitler, if thats any consolation. Stalin maybe. (Just kidding).

[RuleofThree]

I just can't leave it alone...

Ill give you that Im being a touch overzealous, but I have my reasons. Saying people should stay in tank stance cause theyre not comfortable tanking is promoting bad tanks, or that they need high lvl gear to do the content. The game allows you to do something, and you choosing not to do it cause its easier for you is making things harder for others.

That mentality works when you are doing extremes and savages. Of course you want people to pull their weight, cause that shit is mechanics a cut above the norm. But - and I feel I really need to stress this here....*ahem* THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE CASUAL, AND DON'T DO SAVAGE OR EXTREME CONTENT. Just so you know, I have copied and pasted that bold and italicized remark, cause I'm pretty sure I'm gonna have to say it again here soon.

If I am grinding the crap out of The Aetherochemical Research Facility because I need poetics, I could not give two cents if the tank never leaves tank stance. I could not give to cents if he does not ignore the turrets on the first boss, I could not give two cents if he does Hard > Spinning > Power Slash over...and over...and over again. Why? Because even if we blitz through the dungeon, it's still 17-20 minutes of my time wasted in that horrible, horrible dungeon. I have not run it with max geared, balls to the wall elitists, but I know my personal best in there is 18:42, and my worst is 23:21. Yes...I have this written down, that's how much I run this for poetics. I honestly, hand to god, do not give two cents that because my tank was just spamming one combo, I had to spend 5 extra minutes in there. That five extra minutes would have just been spent queuing for another run through that abysmal place.



For the same reason I don't give to cents about it in any dungeon. (Focus on the word dungeon here. Again THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE CASUAL, AND DON'T DO SAVAGE OR EXTREME CONTENT....I'm not talking about big boys and girls stuff here, I am talking casual, run of the mill, same crap different day, 4 person dungeons.) I could not care less how the tank is tanking, or if dps is following proper dps rotation protocol. I only care that the tank is alive to to tank stuff, and the dps are alive to do dps stuff, and that I get off my holies and my stones IVs. That's it...Don't care if they are weaving in oGCDs, or Popping Strength potions, or waiting to use Blackest night after the ball of mobs recover from stun. I just care about getting the dungeon done, because THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE CASUAL, AND DON'T DO SAVAGE OR EXTREME CONTENT.

If I am in an extreme, or savage raid? I will do the best that I can do as a white mage, and can only assume that the tanks and dps are doing the same...because they are a cut above the rest..or at least striving to be. I am not advocating for people to be crap tanks (I am trying so hard not to use curse words...so hard), when I am in a savage or extreme, people want the cream of the crop, and will often times be brutally cold when they believe you aren't...so yea, to avoid being picked on like you were back in high school again, you best learn your job and how to play it. But for dungeons...only the elitest entitled care.

Its not about being pro,

I'm gonna stop you right there...it is, it absolutely is, especially when you want to see pro actions outside of areas that don't need it. But continue...

there are a lot of factors in your experience that need to be explained. As a point, did the following occur?:

1) Were you weaving in DAPS into your rotation every few combos to maintain a hate lead? Duh, Additional Enimity? Who wouldn't?
2) If you know the DPS are heavily geared, did you do a double DAPS opener in grit? (Definitely not the ideal, but it is a thing) Yes. I even stooped so low in one run, to do a triple DAPS...at which point I had the fight the urge of sighing and saying to myself 'what's the point? might as well stay in tank stance now.'
3) Were your DPS, with all their pro sauce dps, using aggro dumps or were they being jerks and just straight DPSing? You know as well as I do...80% of the overmelded, on O11S after first day of release crowd are jackasses. To them, it's a game to take hate from a pleb tank...of course they didn't dump aggro.
4) Were you riding oGCDs hard? not a single friggen button was left unused the moment it was available.
5) What is your weapons iLvl? i340ish of whatever. What ever it is that you could improve the creation weapon too

Answers in the quote itself.

And on a more relevant note: IF youre going into new content at the bare minimum iLvL, yeah, its gonna be a struggle, and yeah, youre going to have to pull out all the stops.

I don't know if it's just me, but I kind of enjoy how you are back peddling a bit on your previous comment. From 'People standing in Tank stance is a sign of a bad tank' to '...but I guess...if they are just meeting the iLevel requirement, and they are partying with people far better equipped than them...maybe it's ok.'


I'm sure you aren't doing that in the slightest, of course, just kinda seems a teensy bit like you are.

Im not part of an elite mass. At the very best, Im a little above mediocre. I make plenty of mistakes and am still learning the class.

Yea, I hear a lot of elitists are like that, being humble and all. Makes them think doing so will have people think. 'Oh thank god! One of the good elitists have come to our aid! We are saved!'

However, Im talking down to you because you (or rather people more broadly) are promoting a bad way of thinking. You are giving people excuses to rationalize being mediocre. Its the "Its not my fault, its really 'x's fault". X being gear, or dps who dont know better, or bad healers, or bad game mechanics or dungeon design. And it makes me upset because I was exactly one of those people who subscribed to that. "How could anyone tank out of tank stance! Thats stupid! Were tanks, not DPS!" or "I tank in tank stance cause its easier on the healers, and I dont have to worry about threat!". Or whatever excuse I had. I bought those ideas cause I was being lazy about actually putting in the effort to be better. And it was made all the more easier by fellow tanks telling me things like what you point out.

Oh crap, Melicoir! I feel it coming....do....do you feel it....dear God, look out. SAVE YOURSELF.....

THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE CASUAL, AND DON'T DO SAVAGE OR EXTREME CONTENT.

You see a tank standing in tank stance in an extreme or savage, don't worry. You and six other people are most likely going to have him want to unsubscribe, and cut himself before the day is over. You make sure they never do that in your face again, you hear! never!

...but in the boring as hell, most people are doing half asleep anyway, run of the mill, Point A to Point B to Point C, 4 man dungeons? No one cares, and if you do, get with your raid buddies, and pretend The Burn is an extreme raid. Drop down some markers, discuss a plan of action in discord. Make sure the Ready Countdown is set to 7 (is is 7? or 12? For Ninja's Huton...is that still a thing?) so that he has it up and can do preemo dps with his pre-rotation set up properly. Make a day of it...I'm sure you'll have a blast.

As a point, burdening your DPS to cover your DPS loss means the fight goes on longer, which means youll run a greater risk of hitting Enrage, or messing up mechanics thatll kill your team. Every time you have to repeat a mechanic, thats another chance you could wipe. And trust me, it is way way easier for you to push out +2k more DPS by knowing your class then it is for a DPS to push that volume out if they already know their class. Chances are, at this far in the xpac, youre not doing favors to your DPS or Heals by that way of thinking. Particularly if people want fast clears.

NOOO MELICHOIR! YOU HAVE AWAKEN THE BEAST AGAIN! LOOK AWAY...It's com- no...that dig has ran it's course...it's old. If you still want to see it though, I refer you to the bold and italicized remarks above.

<stuff about practicing and doing your best, and trying your hardest and so on>.... If youre being reasonable, and polite, most people who play will be cool with you. Cause frankly, other than fast clears, people want to play with cool players, not dicks (and that irony is not lost upon me right now).

What fantasy world do you live in? When I was in an FC, even they responded to people needing in a way that made you wonder if they actually did let out a groan behind their keyboards. I mean hell, I spent 5 hours yesterday helping a group of seven learn and complete Shinryu Extreme. I literally made macros for them, got on discord with them to chat and give pointers to each job...it was actually rather fulfilling...despite the fact that all seven, the moment we finished, immediately left the trial, the disbanned the group. No 'thanks.' No 'holy shit we did it.' no a single moment of kindness or acknowledgement that 7 other people took time out of their day, to help them....

...If you seriously exist in a world where people are helpful in this game...I will...100% sell my mansion, and lose tens of millions of gil, just to transfer over to Sargatanas, so I can have that slice of happiness too. Cause I could use some of it now.

Hell...look at this damn post...I'm a nice guy, as evidenced by my tale above...but even now I'm being a damn asshole. No...the irony is not lost on me either.

Yeah, I got that feeling too. It was amazing. And, for me, made the game that much funner.

I'm sure that was there just to see if I'd notice....I did.

[Nyvara]

Maybe it's just me but I would rather DPS focus on the fight not the meter because "OMG parse"

or a tank focus on tanking not the meter because "OMG Parse"

or a healer focus on healing not the meter because "OMG Parse"

But hey I am not one of the "Better players". I'm just a dude that has fun.

[Deceptus]

Maybe it's just me but I would rather DPS focus on the fight not the meter because "OMG parse"

or a tank focus on tanking not the meter because "OMG Parse"

or a healer focus on healing not the meter because "OMG Parse"

But hey I am not one of the "Better players". I'm just a dude that has fun.

The only time generally anyone with a parser looks at it is after 1) a clear or 2) a wipe. After a clear to see how they stacked up or after a wipe to see where they need to improve. I can't think of anyone who really pays attention to it mid fight.

[RuleofThree]

The only time generally anyone with a parser looks at it is after 1) a clear or 2) a wipe. After a clear to see how they stacked up or after a wipe to see where they need to improve. I can't think of anyone who really pays attention to it mid fight.

ACT - the leading third party parser tool for FFXIV, has an ingame overlay, so it blends right in seemlessly over the game...so yea, people monitor it constantly during combat. Such as this.