Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
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the addon for eye of anzu was a way to laugh other people. But yes, some couldnt even kill anzu without it. Proof some are bad.
Also, numerous people were unable clearly to kill titan hard/extrem if someone wasnt saying each skill titan will use, one after other...


Also for this i dont want to say "better or worst". And other thing : When we say parsers will improve playstyle. it will do it for those who WANTS improve themselves. Large part of people, really large part doesnt want to always improve themselves (or not improve enough to get the need to some details informations), and so, you can give them as much tool as you want, they wont improve.
But, in most content, we dont care. I really dont care that my daily dongeon does 35 or 40 minutes instead of 30 (and to be honest, the raging one about this are ot only the top level players ... )
When i did the raid with "eye of anzu" i didnt have the addon, most had, and did my work well without, and they did with. but when i watched their "armory" page (like lodestone for characters) i saw that they were clearly not the kind of player wanting to improve. more the kind to click "easy" on the begining of a new game. their choice... Also the kind of people in WoW that come on forum saying "game is too easy" and didnt even go on heroic mode (and evne less mythic where the real difficulty is)

and yes, difficulty of WoW did improve... iskar you point, even with all in the raid having this addon stayed harder than nefarian. easily was as hard as twins emperor or C'thun... Iskar was just a boss in the 2nd part of the raid. when you killed him and 4 other, it opened this access to mannoroth and then, finally the last boss. C'thun, or Nefarian were the hardest boss in their own raid...

But you speak about the wow comunity as a whole, when we speak about parsers only considering "people wanting to improve" (because, watching parser or any other hint, they consider themselves quite bad, and should improve). WoW comunity it is also some people whining because some dongeons are not in the Duty Finder, SO have to get a team in the party finder, with a slitly harder dongeon to do. And consider the people they will party with as toxic brainless parser addict. FFXIV comunity like WoW comunity is not "only one kind of people" some dont care about PvE content, doing only old one to get skins, and then, go roleplay. other dont do anything else than PvP. some tryhard the most difficult content (savage/ultimate/mythic raid / M+ dongeon) And some (like me) stays on "casual" content (heroic raid / Xtrem primals / first/second savage bosses). The "only roleplay" dont care his DPS. the PvP guy will not only think DPS, but also to survive, more crowdcontroll etc etc. When we speak about improvement due to parser it is, at least people like me, wanting to perform a little in content.


Parser improve the playstyle of the people wanting to clearly improve it. The others, if they dont want, no tool, no tutorial, no guide can make them improve.

You want to compare wow to FF. lets focus on the same kind of people on both game. (And when i do it, i am clearly unable to give an answer, the game get so much difference to being able to compare players' level)