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  1. #11
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    Nezerius's Avatar
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    Rintha Elenah
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 90
    The fight really isn't all that difficult, OP. If you can't hit the DPS requirement and keep failing, the Echo will eventually help you out (like others have mentioned)
    What also helps is to make sure that all your cooldowns are up for the last part of the fight, to defeat her before the meteor hits the ground.

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLupinos View Post
    WHAT?
    1-Spaming Stone to damage
    2-Dot when needed
    3-Heal yourself and hien (it's basically a full heal)
    4-Mp

    Just learn the Skills before starting. You can spend a good time before pulling the boss to learn these FOUR skills.
    It's bellow basic. And if you fail 3 times, you get Echo, basically granting you God power to complete this face roll type of difficulty content.
    Good job reading the OP. They're talking about the fight prior to the one you're talking about.
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  2. #12
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Snapdragyn View Post
    Please, leave the extreme difficulty for, you know - EXTREMES (& savages).
    Sorry but the difficulty of the msq cannot be compared to ex or savage. Not being elitist, this is the simple truth. The duty isn't super easy but it most certainly does not require raiding skills to complete it.
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  3. #13
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    Veliona Umrtia
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    I don't understand the purpose of threads like this. They aren't going to nerf any encounters in the game, especially ones that are tied to the MSQ and have lore reasons for their difficulty unless something in the encounter is broken or tuned incorrectly and neither scenario applies to this part of the MSQ. Like other's have stated, fail enough times at it and you'll eventually get it thanks to the echo, but asking for them to dumb down content because you personally can't do it isn't the answer.
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  4. #14
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    Nirokun Moon
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Yoshi-P definitely told you to GIT GUD. Follow the instructions. The game is supposed to be challenging and rewarding to give you a sense of accomplishment.

    Dumbing things down repeatedly takes the joy out of it for everyone else. Just better yourself and you'll enjoy the game more, and the people playing with you in dungeons won't have to struggle as much to carry your burden. Thanks.
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    "Dream lofty dreams, and as you dream, so you shall become." - James Lane Allen

  5. #15
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Moogle
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    Telling us you're a MMO player since 2000 and not being able to clear a MSQ instance in FFXIV.

    Hmmm...
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  6. #16
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    Kazela Arniman
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    Zalera
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    Warrior Lv 80
    The MSQ doesn’t even come remotely close to savage or even EX trial difficulty.

    If someone finds the MSQ to be as difficult as OP claims it is, I suggest single player games.
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  7. #17
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    Novia Marius
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snapdragyn View Post
    I've been playing MMOs since 2000. At this point in FFXIV, I don't see a future for myself in this game. The level of gameplay skill required JUST to get through the MSQ is fast approaching the limits of my capabilities.
    Imagine being carried for 18 years
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    Last edited by Rokke; 09-21-2018 at 01:06 AM.

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    I question how you made it past Return of the Bull, but can't beat Sadu.
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  9. #19
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    Mhyrria Uan'lithui
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    Tonberry
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    Paladin Lv 70
    What MMOs were you playing pray tell? FFXIV is one of the easiest MMOs there is unless you include pay-to-win MMOs which you can be a god on day 1.

    That fight was nowhere near difficult. It was nothing like legacy Steps of Faith were echo couldnt even save 8 blundering players who had no idea what to do, npcs with speech bubbles amidst that chaos didnt help, and eventually just timed out.
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  10. #20
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    Kheeziah Toastie
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    Zodiark
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Hey, OP.

    I also left GW2, one of the reasons being that skill level was just too much for me in conjunction with the graphics getting flashier, my general health and, well, put it this way: I know what you're talking about. Also, the story was getting progressively worse.

    This game started out being much better for me, but the natural difficulty increase, particularly post-60 (arbitrary, but I'm going with it), is eventually going to do the same to me. I don't really know if this is something can be fixed, but given I love the story of FFXIV, I'm going to try and stick it out as long as possible. I know practice also helps, and I've practiced ARR stuff a fair bit so I feel confident with that at least. Beyond that, the worst thing for me is not just a difficulty spike, but it's the graphics. I see them getting flashier and flashier, and I know I won't be able to play through that (given I have photo-sensitive epilepsy, I could be rather dramatic and say that stuff can actually, literally, for real kill me, so perhaps the other difficulty may end up not being the overriding issue). Most fights I figure I can learn with enough practice, but if they involved certain flashes or colours (for example, first boss of WoD or Tsukuyomi have black/white going on which actually have nearly broken me, let alone any other things that go on in those fights), then I either have to avoid altogether or be exceptionally careful. I worry about taking part in a simple roulette for this reason alone.

    I don't want or expect people to carry me in this story stuff. I mean, it's not fun for me, and it's not fun or fair for them. I have, and continue to do my best to learn things and keep pushing so I can be a better player, but sooner or later, I know it just won't be enough. I won't be able to keep up and I will have to quit. I think I'll be very sad when that happens, because I have fallen for this game in a quite a big way. On one hand, I grew up never expecting to play computer games ever, so I'm happy that I have, and if I had to stop tomorrow, it would suck, but such is life. On the other, it still sucks to feel I've "beaten" a thing (epilepsy, and I mean beaten even if it's only artificial) for it to come back and give me a good old whack in the face because of "difficulty increases".

    So, OP. Believe me when I say, I understand exactly what you're saying. When you decide to call it a day, however, focus on the good stuff that happened rather than all the bad. Then it'll just be a fond memory to reminisce over every now and then whilst you get on with something else. Welp, that's what I'm going to do, anyways. Until then, I intend to have a damned good time here. <3
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