Some gathering questions

[Kiri_Seraph]

Does anyone know how much gather you need for x4 yield with bountiful yield on the new nodes?

Also I overmelded my gear. I have 1550 perception, 1650 gather and 720 GP without food now

[Kiri_Seraph]

Ok I've been doing this for a while now and it seems like HQ arent worth that much more than NQ, usually 10-50% more. I can use leaf turn for a +30% chance but it means losing out on 2 items for a total of 13. However, If I go field mastery I/sharp vision I for 100% success, followed by blessed harvest II/King's Yield II for the bonus 2 items I get a total yield of 15 but less HQs. But I can also use bountiful harvest II/Bountiful Yield II twice for an extra 4 yield, resulting in a guaranteed 19 items, 10% of which on average will be HQ.

What's more, if I'm on a node with +1/+2 gather attempts not only am I looking at 22/25 items respectively, but if I put my bountiful yield/harvest II on the final ones then with brunt force/deep vigor I'm getting 5/10 guaranteed HQ items out of those nodes, plus a 10% chance on the other 5 swings I get.

It just seems like leaf turn/unearth isn't viable when I can instead be using blessed harvest/kings yield, and yet every thread seems to recommend the HQ route and never mentions blessed harvest/kings yield II. Why is that? Are HQs just worth more outside cerberus? Or are those rotation specifically for patch day?