Thread: Why can't we have the choice of auto skills and manual impute skills?

Originally Posted by Zojha

However, you can break every rotation down to such a sequence of buttons. Which then begs the question: Why not consolidate every entire kit into one button?

This isn't anywhere remotely close to the truth unless you're hitting a striking dummy.

I would love to see the combo flip options available outside of PvP.

Originally Posted by SenorPatty

What about the jobs that can't make use of it? How do you properly balance, say for example, a job like drg in comparison to smn?

You have to remember that you can't just translate what works on pvp to pve.

Wait, what? What needs to be balanced when you're just asking "please make these actions turn into other actions instead of having to push different buttons?" Nothing about the job itself is changing.

I'll grant you that SMN doesn't have a whole lot of options for this, but that's no reason to not add it for every other class that can use it. Also, it's been a while since I've been on SMN, but I think they could condense Summon Bahamut and Enkindle Bahamut into a single button. You could also argue that they've already added this for SMN, since Ruin IV works as an auto-switching skill.

DRG is easy. You could squash the 1234 combos down to just 2 buttons, [Fang and Claw combo] and [Wheeling Thrust combo].

Originally Posted by Raldo

Wait, what? What needs to be balanced when you're just asking "please make these actions turn into other actions instead of having to push different buttons?" Nothing about the job itself is changing.

I'll grant you that SMN doesn't have a whole lot of options for this, but that's no reason to not add it for every other class that can use it. Also, it's been a while since I've been on SMN, but I think they could condense Summon Bahamut and Enkindle Bahamut into a single button. You could also argue that they've already added this for SMN, since Ruin IV works as an auto-switching skill.

DRG is easy. You could squash the 1234 combos down to just 2 buttons, [Fang and Claw combo] and [Wheeling Thrust combo].

I was saying balance in the context of button reduction. While I'm aware that pressing 1 2 3 4 isn't any harder than 1 1 1, keep in mind that it's not going to sit well, even with me, that a set of jobs have significantly less buttons to deal with on their screen than another. On top of that, if some jobs barely need button crunching because you can't really auto-combo much, then those jobs become the jobs you end up "working your hands" so to speak more than the others and that's how it becomes "unbalanced".

"They shouldn't do it because it wouldn't affect all jobs" - That's a very very short-sighted way of thinking.
"But this will make some jobs have less buttons" - Some jobs already do, and I don't see anyone complaining.
"This doesn't seem to be an effective use of the Dev's time" - It's already working in PvP. The hard part is clearly already done.
"I want to keep doing it the current way" - So long as they don't take away the current way of doing things, I see no reason for anyone to be against such a change. The fact that they DID take away the ability to set various combo actions as individual buttons in PvP is definitely a valid concern.

I can't come up with a reason for every job to need it (though the SB expansion showed that they're willing to radically change things sometimes), but I can certainly come up with ideas for a few of the ones listed.

BLM - Bliz1/Fire1, Bliz2/Fire2, Bliz4/Fire4 could be contextual based on which stance you're in. (What if you're in no stance? Default to blizzard? Add a new action to instantly puts you into Umbral Ice 1 stance? You could even combine such an action onto the same button as Enochian. This question is only relevant at low levels, so I'm not sure how much I care.)

SMN - Summon/Enkindle Bahamut should definitely just be one button. Is it one button? I don't remember. Ruin4 is already implemented in the "auto-swap" method.

BRD - I would like to see Straight Shot change into Refulgent Arrow (though perhaps they'd need to make Refulgent reapply the Straight Shot buff for people to be okay with that). You could also technically make Wanderer's Minuet turn into Pitch Perfect, but that's probably unnecessary.

SAM - I would like to see them put the buffs on the 3rd action of the combo so you'd only ever need a Jinpu combo, Shifu combo, and Gekko combo button that would automatically switch to the final combo action during Meikyo Shisui. ("But that will make me slightly weaker in pre-50 content!" Such a tragedy. I think we'll survive. The job starts at level 50.)