Seriously? No mail box?

[NoctisUmbra]

I think it is relevant to bring this up after they post the details of the housing, not sure why it shouldnt ...



Exactly, I wonder how the game would be now if Tanaka was still in charge...



What was wrong with FF11 mailbox system? You send stuff and recieve it in your moghouse... can it be more efficient?

The problem isn't the idea or the delivery system concept. It's the craptastic server structure and game coding. Just cause Tanaka planned on having delivery by March 2011, doesn't mean he would have delivered, or the system would have been anywhere near the functional standard any of us would expect. Ignorance is bliss.

As for stuff like crafting in the Inns, the point is you beginning accumulating rested bonus as soon as you enter the room. Crafting in there with indefinite exp bonus would he quite unbalanced.

To be honest... what is the player housing now? A private cinema...
You can't do anything else there (I doubt they will implement furnishing etc yet either)
If you don't want people to complain about yet again unfinished "update" then delay the update and make it proper (imo!).

What we're getting now are player inns. Not housing. Official housing comes in 2.0. Read up before complaining at least.

[Mamba]

What we're getting now are player inns. Not housing. Official housing comes in 2.0. Read up before complaining at least.

In fact... the thread is called:
Thread: [dev1301] Private Player Residences

[NoctisUmbra]

In fact... the thread is called:
Thread: [dev1301] Private Player Residences

I'm quite aware of what this thread is called. I'm also aware of what is being discussed at present. I responded to your implication that what we're getting is some incomplete content in 1.21 - whereas it's not. It is something different from the housing we will get in 2.0. Sort of like the rental chocobo is to the personal chocobo.

[darkstarpoet1]

The problem isn't the idea or the delivery system concept. It's the craptastic server structure and game coding. Just cause Tanaka planned on having delivery by March 2011, doesn't mean he would have delivered, or the system would have been anywhere near the functional standard any of us would expect. Ignorance is bliss.

and just because you don't think it would have been does not mean it would not have been. the whole limitations that can't be handled until 2.0 sounds very familiar. oh that's because the was used in xi for years. does anyone remember "we cannot add extra inventory space due to ps2 limitations" that all of a sudden they were able to add it after a long time even with those limitations.

this reminds me of that scenario. in other words "we don't feel like it's something we want to work on so we'll tell them we can't do it right now"

[NoctisUmbra]

and just because you don't think it would have been does not mean it would not have been. the whole limitations that can't be handled until 2.0 sounds very familiar. oh that's because the was used in xi for years. does anyone remember "we cannot add extra inventory space due to ps2 limitations" that all of a sudden they were able to add it after a long time even with those limitations.

this reminds me of that scenario. in other words "we don't feel like it's something we want to work on so we'll tell them we can't do it right now"

Those darn SE conspirators. Always feeding us BS about how they can't do stuff when they actually can. All they wanna do is take the cost-effective route, like rebuilding the game separately while also maintaining the current version all while charging a discounted sub fee.

Silly SE, they should just put in the delivery system. Takes like 5 minutes and half a dev anyway.

[darkstarpoet1]

Those darn SE conspirators. Always feeding us BS about how they can't do stuff when they actually can. All they wanna do is take the cost-effective route, like rebuilding the game separately while also maintaining the current version all while charging a discounted sub fee.

Silly SE, they should just put in the delivery system. Takes like 5 minutes and half a dev anyway.

i'm not saying that is what they are doing at all. all i said is this seems to be along the same lines of what was done in xi.

anytime someone mentions something it's "wait until 2.0 because 1.x cannot handle it". in xi it was "we cannot add this because ps2 cannot handle it".

no matter what is discussed at this point in time we can all start using that wait until 2.0 picture before the dev responds because that will be their response anyways.

i'm not saying anything can or cannot be done with the structure in place now. what i am saying is it seems to be the same common response given then. if something is not a priority to them i have more respect just being told the truth. part of the issue people have is one group not only said something was possible, but even had it scheduled in when it would be released and the other said it's not possible at all.

[NoctisUmbra]

i'm not saying that is what they are doing at all. all i said is this seems to be along the same lines of what was done in xi.

anytime someone mentions something it's "wait until 2.0 because 1.x cannot handle it". in xi it was "we cannot add this because ps2 cannot handle it".

no matter what is discussed at this point in time we can all start using that wait until 2.0 picture before the dev responds because that will be their response anyways.

i'm not saying anything can or cannot be done with the structure in place now. what i am saying is it seems to be the same common response given then. if something is not a priority to them i have more respect just being told the truth. part of the issue people have is one group not only said something was possible, but even had it scheduled in when it would be released and the other said it's not possible at all.

What other people on these forums may or may not say in response to proposed features isn't my concern. All I know is not everything gets that response. Not even close. However, there are certain features that are staples and many players can't seem to understand why they haven't implemented them yet. features such as effective LS management, mail, delivery, etc. It also happens to be that those are the features that are most inquired about. Features that any dev team would have prioritized and added by now.

You see, those get the response of "wait for 2.0" because the reason is, in fact, due to the coding of FFXIV and their server structure. Something they are rebuilding the game to fix. Fact of the matter is they've patched in just about everything they can - everything that isn't limited and/or impossible due to the code. So when people ask, they get that response often.

There are many proposed ideas that get the response you prefer - that it's not a priority and that it will be looked at in the future. Such as cape slots or various aesthetic changes. Look back at dev responses. You're bound to find responses with SE saying that it isn't a priority. When that is the case, they say it. When they say to expect it in 2.0, however, they mean that as well because they're implementing it into the 2.0 build they are working on simultaneously - because 2.0 will have the engine that has the flexibility and structure where it will be easy to add in and where it will work optimally.

Are there people who go around saying "wait for it in 2.0" when others ask, all the time? Sure. Are they always right in saying so? Probably not. What's the best way to know for sure? Read up on SE's dev responses and translations yourself. Know what is planned for 2.0, and why it isn't planned for an earlier patch. They haven't held back on such info.