Thread: [4.4 Discussion] "Change the Future"

@Cybylt

That's my opinion of Varis as well. We also need to bear in mind that Garlemald's view of the world beyond its borders has been shaped by two important factors. The first being that their ancestors were forced out of fertile lands and into a wasteland. The second is Ascian manipulation encouraging them to distrust the 'savages'. That makes it exceptionally easy for the Ascians to get the result that they desire if the 'savages' start sowing the seeds of chaos within Garlemald themselves. For there to be peace with Garlemald the attitudes of all involved needs to shift.

@ObsidianFire:

Arbert believed his cause to be just when he was working to defeat the Ascians. It turned out to be false, as it condemned his home, himself and his comrades to ruin. In his own words, he did everything he was told to do and it wasn't enough. I suspect a similar predicament awaits the Scions and Eorzean Alliance - that the route that they think is the best one to take will lead only to the 'sorrow' that the mysterious voice mentions.

As far as hubris is concerned, there's a stacking number of elements. I'll go into more depth later since I'm about to head to bed but I'm also referring to minor things.
As an example, Hingashi was kind enough to open up Kugane to the outside world - something it isn't obligated to do - and yet there's Eorzeans scheming to establish the Isle of Val as a way to evade Kugane's trade tariffs. Despite their supposed aversion to 'imperialistic' moves they seem awfully fond of such things when it's convenient for them.

Obviously everything is speculation at this point, but the track record so far has been that things are far from simple. I don't see that changing anytime soon - and although Garlemald is in for some cold, hard truths in regards to their actions and behaviour the same is due for the Eorzean Alliance. Especially now that its influence on the world stage is increasing. Again, due to things such as their scheming against Hingashi. There's a certain irony in the fact that Eorzea itself is prone to echoing some of the things it criticises its enemies for.