Thread: [4.4 Discussion] "Change the Future"

Originally Posted by Iscah

Side note: checking quest scripts on Garland Tools, I noticed that Elidibus's dialogue tag is not simply his name but "ELIDIBUSEORZEA". What could that mean for future developments...?

ELIDIBUS (SPEAKING THE EORZEAN TONGUE).

Ascian dialogue is marked not only with their name, but the language they're speaking. (EORZEA or ANCIENT)

This helps them keep straight when to use the red-on-black text.

Originally Posted by Anonymoose

And why doesn't Arbert sound like Arbert in Japanese?

Well the English voice cast has changed fairly frequently for a number of reasons, resulting in characters getting new voice actors (Yugiri tragically being the most recent afaik), I'd say that'd be the most obvious answer. Unless of course the Japanese voice actor for Arbert is still actively voicing other characters.

That said, I'm leaning towards future Alphinaud... The only thing throwing me off that is the last line; "Throw wide the gates that we may pass!", Zodiark I assume would be singular, the Warriors of Darkness could throw out a 'we' though... Then again so could Alphinaud, if the plan is for the Scions from the worst timeline to swap places with the current Scions, hence the soul extraction... Of course it could just be the royal 'we', but the more I thought about future Alphinaud trying to stop Skynet a Flood of Light, the more I liked the idea... Obviously future Elidibus could help out with any timey-wimey magicks... We've had Warriors of Darkness already, time for the Scions of the Seventh Dusk? This head cannon also involves something happening to future Alisaie, hence her remaining unaffected... Certainly giving future Alphinaud cause to say screw it and mess with time/history... There's also something wonderfully enjoyable about a Sharlayan not just involving himself in history, but going a step further and straight up opting to alter it...

And yes, the Scions from the darkest most terrible timeline all have felt goatees...

EDIT: Oh, and I completely forgot, Alphinaud grandfather did kind of send some of use outside time to avoid the last Calamity... So he has a family history of pulling some timey-wimey stunts...

Actually thinking on that a bit... Papalymo copied Louisoix by sealing Shinryu, next up some Scion has to copy him with some time magic? 6.0 some Scion is going to become a Primal. Can't tell if that would be an interesting narrative to tread, or a predictable one...

Originally Posted by TheCurls

My first impression was that the voice belongs to one of the Twelve. The only ones whose souls were taken were those archons who prayed to the Twelve during the Bahamut calamity. Note that Lyse’s soul was not taken and that she was never actually an archon. That was her sister, Yda. (I can’t for the life of me find the timeline that says whether the Yda we see in the ARR opening cinematic is actually Yda or if it’s Lyse. Not that it matters, I suppose).

I’m probably wrong, because I don’t know every bit of lore. Just thought I’d share just in case someone can shoot me down or run with the idea.

There could be some credence to that possibility, though I believe it's been roughly determined that the real Yda was killed sometime before the point when the Archons first fought Gaius, and that it was at that point we first see Lyse assuming Yda's identity. If that is the case, then Lyse would have been the one to pray to the Twelve during the Calamity. Even if that's the case, it wouldn't be unlikely that Lyse could be soul-napped later on either.