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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere View Post
    And yet, like you said, it was changed to avoid confusion to sailors in times of high activity. This being purposely coy for the sake of deep lore isn't worth the headache
    My etymology post was entirely separate from the debate on whether the use of larboard adds unnecessary confusion to the specific mechanic in question in this game. The post was in response to seeing some level of confusion, such as in the post I quoted, regarding the terminology, usage and history of the words port/portside and larboard. Being familiar with the etymology and history of the words, I gave a quick summary to clear up any confusion and to promote the general spread of knowledge.

    So I don't know why you are placing an etymological info dump into an oppositional position in a debate it has no stake in.

    I already touched on my position as to the use of larboard in a previous post on pg.4 with my position generally being that I feel they likely did it intentionally to make it more difficult to parse and then I proposed a trick that may help people with it. At no time did I argue for or against the use of larboard and I honestly have no strong feelings either way in regards to whether the word stays or is changed in this instance. I am more invested in people learning a bit about the word and expanding their vocabulary.
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    Last edited by TouchandFeel; 09-21-2018 at 05:34 AM.

  2. #72
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by IsuzuSento View Post
    You're asking the wrong people. You want the original in Japanese to use "hidari" (left) and "migi" (right) + attack name. What the original in Japanese uses is "sagen" (port) and "ugen" (starboard). In Kanji, the first kanji of sagen is the same as hidari and the first kanji of ugen is migi. But, it's only because it's Kanji that you get that hint. In Romanji and audibly, you wouldn't have that.

    In French, it's "bâbord" and "tribord" and similarly in German it's "steuerbord" and "backbord".

    The localization is completely consistent across the languages. They're doing correct localization (although I'd argue that using larboard which hasn't been used since the 1840s is kind of stupid and port should be used instead).

    So, change the original which will change the localization appropriately.
    I really don't know why you're being so pedantic over this. They are reading it, not hearing it, and if you read it the kanji for it "left" and "right" are present, this is not the case for English, that's 100% the only thing that matters here, not how sagen or ugen are pronounced.

    Additionally this is a localization, not translation, things don't need to change in JP for them to change in EN, they change entire lines of text all the time.
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    Last edited by alimdia; 09-21-2018 at 04:24 AM.

  3. #73
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    Maeka Blazewing
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    Fun little fact...

    For anybody that plays WoW, Kul'tiran children will oftentimes say a line that goes something like "Which way is starboard, again?" when you click on them.

    I find it funny, becuase you know what, I still can't remember which way is which.

    However..... Larboard = Left is easy because both start with L. And if Larboard = Port.... then that's easy too hehe.
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  4. #74
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    It really does just take a few tries to get used to it and figure out the pattern. Lar = left side, if not lar then it's right side. When it spins around, if it uses the same name then you move, but if it uses a different name, then you don't move. Mechanically it's broken down to seeing if the first letter is L or not and being careful of that one time it does the attack while facing everyone. It's definitely one of the big raid killers but if you don't get it down the first try don't beat yourself up too much. Hell it took until my 3rd time going in there to really get it down.
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    Last edited by hydralus; 09-21-2018 at 12:57 PM.

  5. #75
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    I can't believe this thread is still going. Its not like you have to memorise what every other attack in the game does (oh, wait...). In midgardsormr, he will spin horizontally or vertically, you have to remember which one is out and which one is in. Where are threads calling that BS? Just use word association, like with every other mechanic. As a tank I can tell you that I very quickly learn the names of all the tank busters, and they never have names that say "tankbuster".
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 09-21-2018 at 04:36 PM.

  6. #76
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    Drakth Ardos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    I can't believe this thread is still going. Its not like you have to memorise what every other attack in the game does (oh, wait...).
    No, it's almost like different people have difficulties with different things. Oh wait..
    (Also, Middy's attacks differ quite a bit graphically and gives you quite a bit more time to react to them)
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    I hate to say this but I hate that aoe.. I feel like it's too fast. I can learn the directions but the speed at which it's cast I feel like I'll forever be on the floor, it feels unfair the way it is. The rest of the fight is fine, I just hate that stupid aoe. :c
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  8. #78
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    Talitha Solarien
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    Quote Originally Posted by ko_ View Post
    I hate to say this but I hate that aoe.. I feel like it's too fast. I can learn the directions but the speed at which it's cast I feel like I'll forever be on the floor, it feels unfair the way it is. The rest of the fight is fine, I just hate that stupid aoe. :c
    That AOE marker feels like trolling to me. I have no problems having to react to scripted boss mechanics (like Construct 7 in the Lighthouse) but please don't place markers when you have no chance of reacting to them. That's just evil.
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  9. #79
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    I can't believe this thread is still going. Its not like you have to memorise what every other attack in the game does (oh, wait...). In midgardsormr, he will spin horizontally or vertically, you have to remember which one is out and which one is in. Where are threads calling that BS? Just use word association, like with every other mechanic. As a tank I can tell you that I very quickly learn the names of all the tank busters, and they never have names that say "tankbuster".
    Unlike other attacks in the game it's pretty easy to confuse starboard and larboard at quick glance.
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    Can't wait for 5.0 when we all get introduced to stern and bow.
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