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  1. #101
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    There isn't really any point in showing a marker that disappears too quickly to react to, other than making the player feel like the game is being unfair or that they are lagging.
    The marker appears so that you are aware of its exact size in future uses despite an animation that does not lend itself well to visibly distinct borders, not to make you react in time, and I appreciate even that much information far more than I feel cheated by escaping the lit zone in time only to still be hit -- XIV damage zones have never been consistent in their snapshotting. The majority follow suit, but there are many that do not as there are 'irregular' verbs in Spanish or whatnot: far too large a portion to consider mere outliers, they instead each become the part and parcel in the learning process.
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  2. #102
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    Fyce Alvey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    At this point, I'd rather that they would have put yellow lightning flashing on one of its sides rather than the wording. Visual queues are much easier to interpret in 1.5 seconds vs text. I see the text, I go ok is starboard... that means right is bad... I need to move... <BANG>.
    That's the point of this mechanic.
    Same deal with Tsukuyomi Extreme.
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    Last edited by Fyce; 09-24-2018 at 04:42 PM.

  3. #103
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    Tezu Silvin
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    Leviathan
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    I'm just gonna straight up call out English localization team since they are responsible. This translation is the cause of player confusion and frustration. This previous offender is in fact Tsukuyumi Ex's Dark and Bright blade. In Japaneses it's simply left slash and right slash. Simple and easy to tell. For English users we are forced to memorize it, but luckily, Bright has "right" in it and so confusion wasn't bad. This time, starboard and larboard are leaving people clueless. The fact that two words look so similar isn't helping me to memorize at all. This translation gets a big F from me.
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  4. #104
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    TalithaSolarien's Avatar
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    Talitha Solarien
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    That's the point of this mechanic.
    Same deal with Tsukuyomi Extreme.
    It's basically the same mechanic as Dark/Light Blade in that fight. The difference being that you actually can run out of the telegraphed attack on Normal there.

    As for showing us the marker to learn the attack: the standard visual cue during the last fights for that was lighting up the floor dark blue during the attack so you can learn from that. Showing an AOE marker you can't react to feels like a raised middle finger to me, even if it's meant that way.
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  5. #105
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    Ameela Trussa
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    Phoenix
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    Larboard and Left both start with L, so an easy way to remember is that you essentially have Left (Larboard) and Not Left (Starboard), it's the same as Tsukuyomi's Bright Blade.
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  6. #106
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    MuseTraveller's Avatar
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    Mihn Saruihn
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    Malboro
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    Bard Lv 80
    As non native English speaker this was a struggle. Friends pointed what the words meant cause I thought it was some giant cleave I was meant to go behind the boss ....needless to say by the time my brain could read and associate these words with, which one was left or right and which direction is the boss is facing, and I'd get hit and then another one right after lol it was just too fast. The flashing AoE you can't dodge is such a troll move. :c
    I guess I need practice but can we just leave left/right in the name of such attacks in the future?
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  7. #107
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    Riyah Arpeggio
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    Exodus
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuseTraveller View Post
    As non native English speaker this was a struggle.
    even if you are a native one, its a struggle. The mechanic happens so fast that if you are distracted in any way, you'll get nailed. You won't have time to process the correct direction and be moving. And you have to process two of them in a row, with the second one inverted. I'm generally good at the other mechanics in casual content, but this one just nails me unless the fight goes perfectly; no one dies, no one is out of place, i dont get targeted by the tether, etc.
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  8. #108
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    Calad Argentol
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    Mateus
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Fun fact: it's a really, REALLY old term for the left side of a ship that they discontinued...for being confusing.
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  9. #109
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Summoner Lv 90
    You can differientiate them on their first letter, I think that's fine. Starts with L, starts not with L, easy.

    It's not a mess like the former german names for Niddhogs attack patterns, where the difference is in the middle of a really long name.

    Flirrender Flügelschlag
    Flirrender Schweifschlag
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Schweifschlag
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  10. #110
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    The marker appears so that you are aware of its exact size in future uses despite an animation that does not lend itself well to visibly distinct borders, not to make you react in time,
    And I'm saying it's gotten tiresome and it goes against what AoE markers were used for for the majority of the rest of the game. Again, I feel they should either properly show the indicator for the entirety of the charge-up period, or just not show it at all.
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