please God just call it port

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Funny thing about all this is, apparently, the Japanese equivalent translates to "Right" and "Left". Port, Larboard and Starboard are all Koji Fox just trying to be clever.

I don't know what it is about this attack, but I got hit by every single one. I don't think it's a left/right issue because I Ravana when it was relevant as a melee no problem. Of course the fact that he turns around after the first one doesn't help matters.

Could you not be moving if he repeats the same term twice? For example, if he does Larboard into Larboard, you run to his opposite side both times. Keep in mind, left is relative to the direction Omega faces. Since he turns around after the first attack, it'll be your right when you dodge (but his left.)

[IsuzuSento]

Funny thing about all this is, apparently, the Japanese equivalent translates to "Right" and "Left". Port, Larboard and Starboard are all Koji Fox just trying to be clever.

I really wish people would stop repeating this statement. It's wrong. The Japanese nautical terms just include the kanji for left and right in their names. It's effectively as if port and starboard were called leftward/rightward instead.

The French translation uses bâbord and tribord which are their equivalent to port/starboard. I don't know what the German one does.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I really wish people would stop repeating this statement. It's wrong. The Japanese nautical terms just include the kanji for left and right in their names. It's effectively as if port and starboard were called leftward/rightward instead.

The French translation uses bâbord and tribord which are their equivalent to port/starboard. I don't know what the German one does.

Isn't that a bit pedantic though? Leftward and Rightward are, essentially, left and right with "ward" added.

[IsuzuSento]

Isn't that a bit pedantic though? Leftward and Rightward are, essentially, left and right with "ward" added.

I was just using it as an example of what it's like. It's simple for Japanese because of the structure of their language. They don't have a specific kanji for port or starboard, but the Japanese nautical terms used in the attack are translated as port/starboard. Their kanji literal translations are "left ship" and "right ship". The French uses their standard nautical ones and based on this thread, so does the German.

[ErryK]

I really wish people would stop repeating this statement. It's wrong. The Japanese nautical terms just include the kanji for left and right in their names. It's effectively as if port and starboard were called leftward/rightward instead.

The French translation uses bâbord and tribord which are their equivalent to port/starboard. I don't know what the German one does.

If it says left and right, then it says left and right. How is that wrong?

[Khyra]

If it says left and right, then it says left and right. How is that wrong?

左舷 is "sagen" / port
右舷 is "ugen" / starboard
左 is "hidari" / left
右 is "migi" / right

So port/starboard is read as sagen/ugen.
Left/right is read as hidari/migi.

But the kanji for sagen/ugen gives you a hint, because it includes the character for left/right as the first character.

If you're hearing it, there's no clue, its just as opaque as English. If you're reading it, you can get a hint.

[Iscah]

左舷 is "sagen" / port
右舷 is "ugen" / starboard
左 is "hidari" / left
右 is "migi" / right

I just had a thought regarding this, and the arguments that "it's easier to read in Japanese" and "larboard/starboard look too similar"...

Ignore the meaning of the words, and look at what is visually written.

左舷
右舷

The only visual difference in the Japanese words is the small "square" or "sideways H" element of the first symbol.

In terms of having to quickly identify which word is written, I think it's actually more fair (and possibly even a deliberate choice) to use English terms that have a similar proportion of identical letters.

[IsuzuSento]

If it says left and right, then it says left and right. How is that wrong?

The attack doesn't just say left or right which is what they implied. In Japanese, the attack name contains the kanji for left and right, but only because the nautical term includes them. Edit: removed the translation part since Khrya's post illustrates that part better.

The kanji given in the attack name are translated to the normal nautical terms, port/starboard for English and the equivalents in French/German. It's not that the localization team is making things up. People keep talking about them as if it just said left and right. After all, part of what I replied to was "Port, Larboard and Starboard are all Koji Fox just trying to be clever."

[Kuroka]

"steuerbord" and "backbord" and i got zero clue of either, even less mid fight.... >_>

[IsuzuSento]

"steuerbord" and "backbord" and i got zero clue of either, even less mid fight.... >_>

Well, at least they're consistent. Those are the German names for starboard and port according to the PDF I found that listed the translation of nautical terms between English and German.