Alphascape is AMAZING! (Spoilers!)

[Reynhart]

After a quick check its totaly true, its him.

I have a really strange feeling from Alphascape, and in fact, this whole patch. With the design choices, the music reusing samples from past iterations (Torn From the Heavens, Maker's Ruin, etc...) I have a feeling that they're trying to tie several loose ends.

Could it be that they actually needed ARR, HW and SB to really sever their links to the past and that, maybe, 5.0 will be able to rise as a real fresh start ? This thought actually gives me more faith in the game that anything from the past two years. And, it's still guesses at that point, but from the event in the MSQ, there could be a clever way so that you won't have to do the MSQ up to 4.5 to start 5.0.

[ScarecrowJames]

Skipping Savage this time around since I am not interested in the enemies unlike the previous 2 sets but with that said. These fights are so much better than the previous raids of SB. Chaos was a really fun fight, I can not say the same for Alte Roite. (Train was pure nostalgia fun and honestly not a bad fight)
The last fight while mechanically wise, I was down with, the villains....I didn't care for. It made me think of that awful movie Advent children, Black Leather Villains lol. The ending of the raid seemed like it tried to make me sad with what they went with after beating the final boss(Grill) but I honestly never cared story wise about anything ever going on in Omega, characters and lore.

Omega though is probably one of the worst ones, The duty action could just be removed imo. It probably will have more importance in Savage maybe. Still a good fight, not the best but so much entertaining than Guardian, that alone gives it a pass for me.
2nd Fight, While the fight was fun. Another Dragon is getting old for me we even got a another Dragon Boss in the dungeon. Which is weird I used to always thinking man I love killing dragons...but I am actually getting tired of doing so....

[Nariel]

As much as I'd love this to be true... I think they just runned out of idea and re-used what they find and called it a day.

[ScarecrowJames]

As much as I'd love this to be true... I think they just runned out of idea and re-used what they find and called it a day.

Yeah There are re-used mechanics. There are some new ones to though. But sometimes its how others are used in different ways and sometimes with combinations of others that can make it feel more entertaining and fresh. But of course if you break down a lot of mechanics on paper it will seem simple and easy. But executing it won't always lead to success even if it does help.

[Reynhart]

As much as I'd love this to be true... I think they just runned out of idea and re-used what they find and called it a day.

They did say that this patch was a "Chapter 0". The plots of ARR started in 1.0. Ishgard and Ala Mhigo also took their origin in 1.0, and Doma in 2.1. So, for something worthy of this nickname, I'd say it should be something that was not really explored before.

What if 5.0 makes us explore another shard ? A world that lived completely different events than ours. And what if you could create a character from this shard, making the current MSQ totally optionnal ?

[Corue]

FF7 is SE's biggest cashcow. There's no way they're just going to restrict it to 4 fights. If we get FF7 content they're going to go the whole shebang and make it an alliance raid series.

[Nariel]

FF7 is SE's biggest cashcow. There's no way they're just going to restrict it to 4 fights. If we get FF7 content they're going to go the whole shebang and make it an alliance raid series.

There isn't enough material to actualy do something that big with FF VII, the story fit on a pocket tissue. No "legendary place" to explore. Not enough great bosses. At best we'll get a cross-over fate to celebrate the launch of the remake and get ugly looking weapon.

[Lambdafish]

There isn't enough material to actualy do something that big with FF VII, the story fit on a pocket tissue. No "legendary place" to explore. Not enough great bosses. At best we'll get a cross-over fate to celebrate the launch of the remake and get ugly looking weapon.

I'm inclined to disagree, the whole Ivalice raid cycle is just two games, FFXII and tactics, whereas the FFVII universe contains more entries than that. I would imagine that we would get Mako reactor, Nibelheim, and Northern Crater, with bosses and story events stretching from the whole franchise.

Not that I want this though, FFVII tech is far too similar to garlean tech, and bosses like guard scorpion have already been used. I'd rather they incorporate the bosses and locations subtly into XIV lore through the garleans.

[Nariel]

I'm inclined to disagree, the whole Ivalice raid cycle is just two games, FFXII and tactics, whereas the FFVII universe contains more entries than that. I would imagine that we would get Mako reactor, Nibelheim, and Northern Crater, with bosses and story events stretching from the whole franchise.

Not that I want this though, FFVII tech is far too similar to garlean tech, and bosses like guard scorpion have already been used. I'd rather they incorporate the bosses and locations subtly into XIV lore through the garleans.

Ivalice lore is really huge, more than you seems to imagine and have a whole mythology attached to it, so much FF VII can't even compare. There is so much option for the staff to choose as the last ivalician 24 man raid its ridiculous.

Another garlean themed base crawling would be so lame for a 24 man raid or even a 8 man raid, its already over-used and boring as standard dungeon.

[Ameela]

Ivalice lore is really huge, more than you seems to imagine and have a whole mythology attached to it, so much FF VII can't even compare. There is so much option for the staff to choose as the last ivalician 24 man raid its ridiculous.

Another garlean themed base crawling would be so lame for a 24 man raid or even a 8 man raid, its already over-used and boring as standard dungeon.

Honestly considering the next expansion is most likely going to be set in Garlemald, I think it's safe to assume the next 8-man raid will be directly tied to it.
I can see them doing something like having them based on the weapons from 7, with you fighting Diamond at the end of the first tier, Ruby at the end of the second and then Emerald at the end of the third one, with original bosses inbetween like in Alexander.