Let Players Buy/Trade Housing Again?

[Rymm]

Couldn't you just limit it to people who have owned the plot a certain amount of months?

So the flippers could just sit on the house for X numbers of months before selling them for ten to twenty times what they are worth? Hard pass.

Balmung needs housing for the roleplay community that actually uses them on a daily basis.

Implying that Balmung is the only server that has an RP community...

[InkstainedGwyn]

Join an FC, get an FC room. Join the Balmung housing discord. I've seen people find houses just last week, you just have to put effort into it. Whining that your way of using a house is the only viable/important way and it's meaningless elsewhere isn't going to win you many friends. 1) there are RP communities elsewhere even if they're apparently not large enough to matter to you and 2) people who don't RP still enjoy their houses. "Someone else seeing it" happens elsewhere and even if it doesn't isn't the reason I decorate my house.

Besides, a lot of people around you are RPers and there arent enough houses for all, why do you deserve one more than another RPer? They need to change the system and if they don't, you have to play within it. Allowing scalpers to charge upwards of 100 mil for smalls (which will happen) isn't fair to other players just bc you'd be willing to do it.

[Raim]

Stop pretending housing is only an issue on Balmung. It affects places like Mateus and Gilgamesh as you have seen as of late. This also means people can't even have a shot at specific plots they want even if the current owner(s) are planning to move. I think flippers are a lesser evil than people just not having plots at all.

[Rymm]

I think flippers are a lesser evil than people just not having plots at all.

But... people are having plots. That's the whole reason why none are available.

I don't know you so I can't really judge, but you might want to take a look at some of your posts and think about how you are presenting your argument. It sounds an awful lot like the problem is that you can't get the specific plot you want and are wishing you could just solve the issue by throwing gil at it.

[Rokke]

The house flipping way of old was great for established players, it was not new player friendly in the least bit. Seeing the second hand prices on the reselling reddit for the first time was incredibly discouraging. My former FC paid around 80 mil for a beachfront cottage. I ended up paying around 24mil for a cottage with a bad view and my two closest neighbors were empty buildings a different reseller was sitting on. As frustrating as the random timers can be, anyone who camps has a chance of getting a plot now. Within the last week and a half, there has been 1 open large, 2 open mediums, and several open smalls (with 3 being purchased by lucky people when patch went live this morning).

I haven't had a chance to enjoy the new patch yet, but the notes said that there would now be a way to identify both a house as a rp venue and what kind of rp it catered to. Regardless if someone has/does not have a personal, there are plenty of venues on the server.

[Vidu]

Stop pretending housing is only an issue on Balmung. It affects places like Mateus and Gilgamesh as you have seen as of late. This also means people can't even have a shot at specific plots they want even if the current owner(s) are planning to move. I think flippers are a lesser evil than people just not having plots at all.

I am not pretending that it only affects Blamung - but it only affects the larger servers this badly. There are plenty of open houses on smaller servers.

And less flippers means that more houses belong to people actually using them and not just sitting on them for someone to pay them the insane amounts of money (both ingame and real) to let the plot go.
Throwing money at flippers doesnt increase the number of houses on your server and with the current system there will never be enough houses for everyone on Balmung.

Right now its at least people owning the house because they want the house - not because they want to make a profit (...except from the garden and airships, obviously...)

[Zigabar]

It affects places like Mateus and Gilgamesh as you have seen as of late.

Can't speak for Mateus, but Gilgamesh isn't that bad anymore. There are smalls going up for sell pretty regularly in all districts and occasionally a medium. In fact, my friend stumbled upon an open medium just last weekend.

[Bahati]

I know it's frustrating on Balmung, I doubt housing is as cut throat on smaller servers. However, allowing house flipping again is not the answer. Understand that back when it was still possible to flip houses we had shameless sellers charging hundreds of real dollars via Paypal under the table. There were small homes being sold for 80 mil gil in game. Or entire FCs swarming around a plot just to snatch the property for their own.

It was terrible and there was no way around it when rich players dominated the market. As unfair as the randomly timed click war may seem, trust me, it's far fairer for everyone than it was.

[Usho]

I know it's frustrating on Balmung, I doubt housing is as cut throat on smaller servers. However, allowing house flipping again is not the answer. Understand that back when it was still possible to flip houses we had shameless sellers charging hundreds of real dollars via Paypal under the table. There were small homes being sold for 80 mil gil in game. Or entire FCs swarming around a plot just to snatch the property for their own.

It was terrible and there was no way around it when rich players dominated the market. As unfair as the randomly timed click war may seem, trust me, it's far fairer for everyone than it was.

There's nothing fair about it. What about those people who stay up all night to buy a house, just for some random a--hole to come and relocate on it, forcing the waiting player to go back to square one? If anything they need to put a limit on relocation if it's gonna affect these BS random timers.




I remember trying to get a house in Goblet once after these new rules. The house was right next to the Brimming Heart and I waited there for HOURS. Then some random dude shows up and relocates his house at the house I was waiting to buy! You can bet me and him had some words with me cussing him out at the end. That was time and patience I never got back. This is some of the sh*t SE has done to the housing system and it's beyond disgusting.





/2 cents

[Bahati]

There's nothing fair about it. What about those people who stay up all night to buy a house, just for some random a--hole to come and relocate on it, forcing the waiting player to go back to square one? If anything they need to put a limit on relocation if it's gonna affect these BS random timers.




I remember trying to get a house in Goblet once after these new rules. The house was right next to the Brimming Heart and I waited there for HOURS. Then some random dude shows up and relocates his house at the house I was waiting to buy! You can bet me and him had some words with me cussing him out at the end. That was time and patience I never got back. This is some of the sh*t SE has done to the housing system and it's beyond disgusting.





/2 cents

In what world is RMT house flipping more fair for players than a random chance to purchase a plot? Especially when relocating to a plot leaves the old property relinquished thus soon to be available?

If you would read what I wrote, I did not say the system we have now is ideal, I said it's more fair than RMT house flipping exploits we had before that extorted players unfairly.