Thread: Revelations from Patch 4.4

Originally Posted by Rocl

To be fair, while he may not exactly be fond of the work, we have to assume Solus has done the mundane business of rulership before and is capable of doing so again. He founded, and to the best of our knowledge, ruled the Garlean Empire for over fifty years.

Solus has previous experience running the empire, but he can't be the face of it again. That has to be Varis's role - the recognised, living emperor - or 'Zenos' if the Ascians decide Varis has outlived his usefulness. (As much as anything, maybe that's why they haven't just killed him and replaced him - they'd rather leave the mundane work to him while they... I don't know, sit around scheming and looking dramatic.)

Originally Posted by Fenral

Allagans, though:

More Allagan ruins, more Allagan descendants (Sadu, in case you missed her copying from the Royal Allagan Spellbook)

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And the bonus round:

• Boulder Downs, an Allagan Ruin unearthed in the calamity that isn't a part of Dalamud, but hasn't really been brought up by anyone (besides Yoshida), in spite of being right there, with a (badly) sealed entrance and everything, since 2.0.

What Royal Allagan Spellbook?

Although I saw a theory somewhere that the original Garuda might have been an Au Ra, and if they were indeed involved with the original Ixal who are confirmed to be Allagan creations.... hmm.


Also if I remember correctly, the Boulder Downs ruins were being used by the heretics as part of the same tunnel network as Snowcloak?

(Anyway, yet another reason for the eventual Back To Ishgard story arc. Right, Square Enix? Right??? please?

Originally Posted by Remedi

so I was wondering considering what happened

if someone completes 4.4 MSQ without ever unlocking coil or EX primals in ARR....... is he locked out of them until 4.5?

This got brought up in another thread the other day.

Urianger is now absent from the Waking Sands UNLESS you still have quests to collect from him.

But that reminds me of something else I noticed and wondered about - one of the Omega cutscenes shows...

characters from the Crystal Tower and Alexander raids. I wonder what happens if you haven't cleared those?

Originally Posted by Iscah

Solus

It's not the first time we've seen them do something like that. Nabriales also re-emerged from the body we defeated in the Chrysalis in an identical form.

As I wrote earlier (post #22), I wonder if they are not required to be possessing someone at all times, but being in their pure aetherial form leaves them more vulnerable.

So in that scene, maybe Solus had a possessed body to begin with (but transformed to his preferred appearance), Varis shot it, then aetherial-Solus jumps out and continues his monologue. Who knows what would happen if Varis tried to shoot him a second time? It might just go straight through him.

If you want to get nit-picky, Nabrieles never showed his face. At any given time, we just know there's a body with a hood and mask on.

Originally Posted by Torquil

If you want to get nit-picky, Nabrieles never showed his face. At any given time, we just know there's a body with a hood and mask on.

Same hairstyle though. Or rather, he has visible sideburns - in both forms.

Something very interesting regarding 'the voice', or rather the words spoken:

It seems they're directly borrowed from the script of Final Fantasy Tactics.

Reddit post

Imgur gallery of screenshots to compare


I'd wondered the other day if it could be Elidibus's voice - have we heard him speak in his true form? - but dismissed it because he's busy elsewhere now! But this has me wondering again, since he and 'the speaker' are both Tactics references.

Something about what comes next

It is just me or they are setting up a siege of Ala Mhigo trial by next patch? We've cut off Garlean way to Doma and Zenolidubus has said that he just wait the words of the emperor to bring the empire's migth to bear against Ala mhigo + the whole alliance stuff. Coupled by what u/ tormenteddragon said about the fact that we are yet missing a fight using revolutions as a theme song ( ARR had bahamut prime with answers and HW had nidhogg with dragonsong) It does make me think that we'll get that in 4.5 or 4.55 as a spark for the coming war in the next expansion

MSQ Thoughts now that I finally finished it.

Not a fan of the Solus reveal AT ALL. I know that Zenos being a monster was an overcorrection for people who sided with Gaius but did they have to go THIS far? I liked the Empire more as an organization with a good goal but bad means of pursuing it. This is just too much. At least Varis is still potentially interesting but I have a feeling he'l become an ally against the ascians, or assassinated for Elidibus!Zenos to take the throne.

Still I'll take this over the Yotsuyu/Asahi debacle, 4.2 and 4.3 were low points for me story wise.