Request for general advice for being good at playing

[SannaR]

Perhaps you should look at the title of the thread? Not giving any advice certainly doesn't qualify as fulfilling the general request. I mean it's totally possible the OP just wants people to comfort them after a run in with mean players, but I choose to think they are genuinely seeking advice, not attention whoring.

Yet they weren't seeking advice on the fighting aspect of things but more of how to be a better player/person. So, how would you say they get better at doing that with how Ravana turned out? They know their mistakes in both instances given, but ended up feeling that they must have not been a good person because they got trolled or blamed for a wipe that didn't start with their mistake.

[RiyahArp]

Perhaps you should look at the title of the thread? Not giving any advice certainly doesn't qualify as fulfilling the general request. I mean it's totally possible the OP just wants people to comfort them after a run in with mean players, but I choose to think they are genuinely seeking advice, not attention whoring.

Kaiva's cleared some savage fights with their SMN. I mean, I'm not saying they are ace, but I think they know generally about how to play a class and how to find info about it. Right now there there's nothing to critique; both examples were not their fault, and there's no evidence that they are a bad player. If it's about specific issues to NIN, the job forums can help with that. But pre 70 too, there really isn't this push or expectation to worry about being bad; you're kind of learning each class as you do it, and only at 70 do the pieces come together for many classes.

Idk, to be honest too unless you want to make it a new main, it's not really possible to expect to be top tier at everything. I mean, it's ok to be play classes for fun too, you don't have to keep a relentless drive for self-improvement on everything, or you can burn yourself out.

[Paladinleeds]

Servers are organised in datacenters - Elemental, Gaia and Mana for japan; Aether and Primal for NA and Chaos for the EU. Each datacenter is made up off several servers - Siren and Cactuar (the OPs server, according to the forum at least) both belong to Aether, so the two of you could get paired with each other! My server, Odin, is part of Chaos - since we dont share a datacenter, we'll never be able to play with each other (unless someone transfers, makes an alt etc.)

Yep. But similarly, Louisoix (my server) is part of Chaos. So me and Vidu can get paired up (and actually did at one point, but hell if I can remember what duty it was!). But, I can't get paired up with the OP, as they're on an NA datacentre (whereas myself and Vidu are EU datacentre). However, let's say you have one person on Balmung, and another on Brynhilder (I think I spelled that right). Both are NA servers. However Balmung is Aether, and Brynhilder is Primal. Aka, can't get matched up at all.

But yes, she's right in that blacklist doesn't stop you getting partied up with people. I've noticed it tries to avoid matching you up, but if there's not enough people to get in without you both together, it'll just throw you both together into duty, and you just gotta deal with it (I've only noticed it in alliance raid roulette at stupid o clock).

[Fhaerron]

Perhaps you should look at the title of the thread? Not giving any advice certainly doesn't qualify as fulfilling the general request. I mean it's totally possible the OP just wants people to comfort them after a run in with mean players, but I choose to think they are genuinely seeking advice, not attention whoring.

You are definitely right but there is nothing from advice to give at this point and based on what he said.

He could have used Diversion yes but the other DPS would just have been killed then. The party just required a black sheep and he was the target. There's nothing about I need help with rotation or what to do here, etc.
I don't know if you know this guy but he's pretty good.
He can do 10 successful runs and nobody complaining and all good, but then he gets in a run where's mistakes and were there's bad people and he comes immediately crying on the forums.

I've said it already but I'll say it again, he needs to learn to blacklist bad toxic people and ignore them.

@OP, please stop. Put those people on blacklist and ignore the toxic they sprew.
Making a mistake does not make you a bad player. Those worlds first people they can make mistakes too and they need to learn new mechanics and fights too. And in the post you've put you didn't even do anything wrong.You're a good player.

Please put those toxic people on blacklist and move on.

[Deathgiver]

Yet they weren't seeking advice on the fighting aspect of things but more of how to be a better player/person. So, how would you say they get better at doing that with how Ravana turned out? They know their mistakes in both instances given, but ended up feeling that they must have not been a good person because they got trolled or blamed for a wipe that didn't start with their mistake.

They asked for general advice, not advice on how to fix the problems they encountered. Several people in this thread addressed that, but more, especially initially in this thread, ignored the request and just told the op "all's well on your end, you don't need to improve." Not going to continue arguing the point as it's not constructive to the ops request, but mollycoddling doesn't help anyone get better.

[Vidu]

Yep. But similarly, Louisoix (my server) is part of Chaos. So me and Vidu can get paired up (and actually did at one point, but hell if I can remember what duty it was!).

...bit offtopic, but: O4 NM. I stepped into more black holes on my bard than I would have liked, being a bit to focused on squeezing out more dps than would have been necessary.
You actually told me afterwards not to worry about it!
Which circles a little back to the topic of this thread - I actually didnt worry about it. I knew I made a mistake, I knew what mistake that was and not only did I knew how to fix but also that its not a mistake that I usually make in the first place. Even if anyone would have called me out on it or names over it (which no one did), I wouldnt have doubted my general ability as player (because I know that I can do better and actually know what to do)
I agree that making excuse for yourself all the time is bad. But so is beating yourself up all the time.
Knowing when something was really our fault and why it was your fault is important as a good player! Both will help you to look for a solution to fix that problem - ...I think in that paticular case my problem was that I was distracted because I was typing.

[Raven_Darkstar]

So basically, what we're looking for here is advice on how to avoid these situations in the first place, yes? Sadly, I can't think of any way to avoid trolls and scapegoaters other than trying to queue with a friend or fc mate whenever possible. It's really helpful to have someone along with you that will speak up on your behalf when people try this crap.

The key thing though, is to recognize when something is your fault, and when it isn't. And when it is your fault, don't beat yourself up too hard over it. That can be difficult to do when you hold yourself to perfectionist standards - I should know, I do that too lol. What I actually found of the most help learning to do this myself, was actually recording some of my runs of content (whether that be dungeons or 24 mans, or whatever) and watching them back.

Mostly I was doing that to see if I could spot any things I could improve on, but it was also helpful in getting me to notice what others were doing. As a healer specifically, I find it difficult to notice much beyond health bars and mechanics, and whether the tank is unusually squishy or things are taking way too long to die.

It took time, and a lot of practice, but eventually I got to where I don't accept blame when I'm not at fault, and I don't put up with people trying to scapegoat or troll me. I leave if kicking isn't an option, or I'm just too angry to even consider it (sometimes you just want out of the run ;P).

So basically, to echo others here somewhat - Work on that confidence! And stop taking crap from other players.

[rswfire]

This is a great community with some toxic players. They don't belong here. Report them and move on. (As long as you are trying your best, you are on the right path.)

[Ilan]

So after the last week or so, I have come to the conclusion that I need some advice about how to actually become a better player in Eorzea. I’ve had some…not so fun runs that really make me wonder where I’m going wrong here. Generally, I keep to myself, unless I’m in a social instance, then I’ll offer help if needed. I try not to bother other people and I push myself to actually be a better player every time I log in.

Problem is, I have runs, which I will mention in a second that make me wonder what more am I able to do. Posted these in the DF vent thread, but just to add some context, I’ll just tldr it here. Had a run as a NIN on Ravana HM in which I didn’t think about Diversion – that was definitely on me, because eventually when the main tank died, I was next on the aggro list and got hit with the cleave. The rest of the raid wiped shortly after that, and I got hit with the blame on that one for even having aggro in the first place. I apologized and told the raid that I would pop diversion, since it was honestly my mistake for not doing that. Got kicked before the next pull.

Other situation – Sigmascape 1 Normal. In my mind, as I was still re-familiarizing myself with everything, I delayed my Trick Attack until after Head-On. The main shirked me for the Doom Strike for it, and the healer eventually Rescued me into a Ghost. The raid group said as much.

This isn’t so much as a request for DPS help as it is a request for advice on what I need to do to improve. Sorry if this is a little bit vague, just a bit slightly frustrated. I could probably elaborate some more on what I’m asking if this doesn’t really make any sense. Really, I just want to be a good player overall – again, not exclusive to DPS…just being a good player period. Any advice would really help right now.

First example: Your OT was bad and your MT or the healers messed up when the MT died. You also should not need diversion since you have shadewalker, but yeah i have to take it with me pretty much all the time in DF too.

Second example: Your group was a bunch of dicks, report them next time and move on because you didn't do anything wrong.

My advice for you is: Keep track of your hate and live with it when you get hate sometimes even if you did all you could to prevent that. The most important part is that you should not let the behaviour of stupid people get into your head, just move on if you get parties like this.

[FFgame]

If you're on PC install damage meter mod, you can see and improve your gameplay. You will also see how well others play, you'd be surprised how many baddies are the first to complain during wipes.