Miqote 4th face nose fudge

[applepie69]

Would it be possible to make the nose fudge optional? I love the face but the darker nose ruins it for me. Since there is a lot people liking the nose, i believe making it optional would be a great idea. Also modders already proved, that changing face texture isn't such a hard thing to do.

Im sorry, i couldnt find the best forum tab to post this.

[OurMom]

I believe they already stated that can't really add more options when it comes to the faces like that, something about too much strain or something on the servers. I'll try to find the actual quote but I know people have been asking for optional horns for Au Ras for awhile.

[DiademIsGreat]

I agree, this is ABSOLUTELY needed. I really would like to use one of those faces without it looking like i face planted into mud, thx for this post.

[applepie69]

One of top 3 excuses, everyone. It's sad a simple texture update would break the servers.

[BillyKaplan]

The amount of data transfer needed for each such increase grows exponentially per every category added. Let's say the base data for your character takes X. And when you're in Kugane, that X is sent to all the players who can see you. Now it's X+1. So to begin with, you get (X+1) * N people who see you. That's already N data more than before.
But here's the catch, YOU see THEM, too. So for each of those N people, YOU get that +1 piece of data as well, so that's 2N total extra data already.
But this ratio is true for everyone around you. And soon enough you get a lot of extra data piling up.

What they can and should do, and have done so in the past, is not to create new categories but to bake the possible combinations into the existing categories. For instance, fem-Miqo's have the old Y'shlota hairstyle twice - once with golden beads, another with silver beads. The hairstyles that have a hairbow are duplicated, every time with the bow in different colors.
Unless they made it so that adding even another combination to face options would somehow double the space needed to save that data (actually possible, depending on implementation...) that sounds like a good solution, at least in theory. Them not doing it after all this time makes me think that they did design it in a way that would bloat data if they so much as sneeze at it...

[Senn]

It would be nice if the darker nose was optional.

[Gun-Cat]

Fudge nose ist best nose. Especially if you have darker skin and it doesn't stick out too much.

And I think it is more or less a tribute to XI Mithra who all had darker noses.

[Clover_Blake]

The amount of data transfer needed for each such increase grows exponentially per every category added. Let's say the base data for your character takes X. And when you're in Kugane, that X is sent to all the players who can see you. Now it's X+1. So to begin with, you get (X+1) * N people who see you. That's already N data more than before.
But here's the catch, YOU see THEM, too. So for each of those N people, YOU get that +1 piece of data as well, so that's 2N total extra data already.
But this ratio is true for everyone around you. And soon enough you get a lot of extra data piling up.

That makes sense, thank you for the explanation.
I can't help but wonder, however, how other games with more hardcore character customization do it and seem to work fine. Even games that were released before FFXIV (like Aion).

[Fredco191]

Lalafell (Plainsfolk) have an option to have their noses be darker than normal. It counts as a facial feature.

Weird how they didn’t do this for that Miqo’te face.

[Genz]

The amount of data transfer needed for each such increase grows exponentially per every category added. Let's say the base data for your character takes X. And when you're in Kugane, that X is sent to all the players who can see you. Now it's X+1. So to begin with, you get (X+1) * N people who see you. That's already N data more than before.
But here's the catch, YOU see THEM, too. So for each of those N people, YOU get that +1 piece of data as well, so that's 2N total extra data already.
But this ratio is true for everyone around you. And soon enough you get a lot of extra data piling up.

N^2 (N players receive the data of the N players)

But it doesn't explain much, since other MMO can give more options with the same limitation. There are a lot of other parameters in the whole picture, and we can only throw guesses at it.
One thing is FFXIV may have a ton more data per character than other games, because we have every classes on one character and big inventory. FFXIV may also have more quests and achievement, and also more sub-systems (chocobo, TT cards, squadrons, etc.). Each of these things aren't big, but put together it makes a lot.
I remember Yoshda mentioned the data transfer between the "worlds" servers and "instances" servers as a limitation, which is why they could add the saddle only by making it inaccessible in instances. Open-world MMO or MMO that relies less on instances may have more room for character data.
Another thing is that FFXIV is more or less bug-free. Maybe other MMO have slightly more bugs because they're slightly more lenient with their data management, but it's not something we can really estimate.
In fine, there is also the possibility that FFXIV is just inefficient with its data, but that's just one guess amongst the others.

Unless they made it so that adding even another combination to face options would somehow double the space needed to save that data (actually possible, depending on implementation...)

I don't see how, even trying to do it very badly. Adding one on/off choice is 1 bit.