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    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Seriously, If You're Only Going To Create Designs For Women, Just Genderlock

    I'd like to refer to these:






    What do all of these glamours have in common? They're ALL clearly feminine fashion styles, for women obviously. Yet they are also all slapped with the "Unisex" sign. Not a single one of these glamour items have a male equivalent, a masculine fashion style, for men. Is this where we are going now? Where you make everything for women but allow men to wear women's fashion clothing so you can say it's equal? Because it's not.

    And I really have no business being upset at this particular glamour but I feel almost offended that the devs seemed to deliberately leave out the men's Ao Dai and only included the women's Ao Dai. Yeah, there IS such a thing. So they ignored it's existence and only made the female version, I guess because it's "cute". Unfortunately it's not just the Ao Dai, they did this with every glamour posted above where they chose to completely leave out male versions of those fashions and called them "Unisex". The Ao Dai was simply the worst offender. It doesn't help that the only make glamour the guys got was their ruffled set for little boys that already costs less than 200k because of how terrible it is. AND THEY PUT IT IN PAGOS!

    So what is it then? Do you only have time to make clothes for women now? Where are the men's casual RL fashion items? You seem to have no problem creating an infinite amount of RL feminine fashion clothing. What's the big deal? I hope you realize that there are people out there, heaven forbid, that want to look at male characters and see a guy with nice form-fitting casual clothes(like the 50 glamours ladies have. Uggs!? Are you kidding me?).

    Armor is not traditional men's fashion. And neither are uggs, shirts with knots tied in them, women's cultural dresses, Daisy dukes, diamond pattern sweaters, or long winter coats with SHORTS.

    I want to see fashion for men. Make them unisex, but make them for MEN in mind and make it so female characters can simply wear them.

    First off? The real Ao Dai for men:


    I'd like to see an actual men's winter coat and boots:



    Considering the fact that we have Cali Beach bug sunglasses, regular sunglasses, diamond knit sweaters and uggs of all things, I want to see dress shirts and polos. Form-fitting ones. Not super baggy and blocky, it's unattractive(at least to me):



    Final Edit: This is what I meant by Google "Men's Sweaters". I get these results:


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    Last edited by Magic-Mal; 09-15-2018 at 09:17 AM.

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    Of course they look feminine when you have females characters representing the gear...

    Plus, there is a lot of gear I find only looks good on males.
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    What... I agree with your sentiment overall, but these are possibly the most gender neutral things you could have picked in the game...

    The only things mentioned here that are blatantly feminine is the daisy dukes and the Ao Dai.
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    Since- since when is a cable-knit sweater "feminine"? Since when is a bulky toggle wool coat "feminine"? Literally all I hear from this is "I think these are cute on girls and they should only be given to girls."

    The ao dai is the only one you've mentioned that I agree with. Everything else looks perfectly fine on men. Besides, there's nothing inherently "masculine" about the coat you picked for them. I've seen it look just as good on women.
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    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Of course they look feminine when you have females characters representing the gear...

    Plus, there is a lot of gear I find only looks good on males.
    Uh no. They are actual women's fashion. That's why female characters are wearing them. Show me where men have knots tied in their shirts for fashion purposes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    Uh no. They are actual women's fashion. That's why female characters are wearing them. Show me wear men have knots tied in their shirts for fashion purposes.
    I don't know, I don't do fashion. I wear khakis and polo shirts.
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    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn View Post
    Since- since when is a cable-knit sweater "feminine"? Since when is a bulky toggle wool coat "feminine"? Literally all I hear from this is "I think these are cute on girls and they should only be given to girls."
    Google "Women's Sweaters" then Google "Men's Sweaters". Try to find a diamond pattern sweater for men
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    What's the big deal? The big deal is the equivalent of what's in the game: On my server, the quaintrelle dress sells for 1.5m at its lowest (at the time I'm making this post). The boulevard sells for almost 300k.


    Female fashions sells better. Been like that since even before I was born and probably will remain as such for a long time. The profiteering side of SE knows that and since their data continues to prove what they confidently know, they will stay the course. The only reason we have coded unisex gear is just really to placate/shut up the portion of the playerbase that doesn't/can't really affect that part of their revenue.


    So trust me when I say I actually echo your feelings and I wish SE tried but I can't keep being angry at something that I know will definitely not change. At least not now or soon.
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    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I don't know, I don't do fashion.
    But I do(meaning I work in it). Which is why I can see these items for what they are.
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    Last edited by Magic-Mal; 09-15-2018 at 06:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    But I do. Which is why I can see these items for what they are.
    Why don't you have any examples of the male gear in the game that is definitely male fashion tho? Like that overcoat you get fro completing Heavensward, or the gamblers coat, or any of those pieces?

    And I've seen sweaters that look just like that for males. In fact I see more male characters using the winter sweater than female...

    It seems like you just picked the most feminine unisex outfits to try to make a point.
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