This Needs to Be Said

[Bahati]

Why can't SE accept their failure with dignity and move on to developing something else? How many times are they going to push the same stale content on us that very few players were excited about in the first place? The fact that SE is desperately locking dyeable AF gear, emotes, mounts, relics, etc, behind this poorly implemented content just to get bodies in there is even more insulting to the playerbase.

Remember, we've gotten less content overall in SB so that our money and the team's time can be funneled into making more Eureka maps. I wish the team would just let this die. If not for relic and AF gear Eureka would have been dead on arrival just like Diadem 1 and 2 were.

STOP SPENDING TIME AND RESOURCES ON EUREKA

[Deceptus]

Why can't SE accept their failure with dignity and move on to developing something else? How many times are they going to push the same stale content on us that very few players were excited about in the first place?

Because this content was planned and developed months ago and the time and resources were already done for it. It was going to get released no matter what. Nothing major was ever going to change about it. Only small QoL fixes. Numbers really.

[Zephanoa]

STOP SPENDING TIME AND RESOURCES ON EUREKA

Because they already have a release schedule made far in advance. This is the way that software is always rolled out. You hardly ever see any piece of software, game related or not immediately have its features pulled and completely reworked. I am not saying its great that they are continuing Eureka, but I am sympathetic that they can't really do much without pulling resources from somewhere else. Especially now that they are on the fringe of an expansion announcement and they will be crunching up till June of next year.

[Hazmick]

I actually like Diadem as a gatherer >_> but yes as a whole the community has been very very very vocal with their dislike for this sort of content.

Perhaps once this development cycle is done and they start planning the next, they'll listen to this feedback. Until then we can just hope that the planned Eureka content is less...well, just less I suppose.

[Kayrie]

I will quit if there`s a third Eureka. and I`ll clearly explain my unsubscription if it doesn`t made them clears enough. and it`s a ticket of no returning ever for me.

[Rhaja]

I don't essentially hate the idea of Eureka and Diadem, but the execution has been completely off. At this point I just don't think its possible to do something this large scale and expect it to work. When you have 144 players with a common goal the only real method of play is to utilize those numbers towards the cause. I would love to see these maps taken to either a 4 man or 8 man level, and instead of grinding mobs for exp you're trying to kill NM's to get treasure drops. These could drop glamour, trash, material, alag pieces, tomes, and Pink Gear.

I honestly would like to see that come back, but locked at a fixed Ilvl that's between crafted and tome gear.

[BristolRuss]

Meh, I enjoy Eureka. It's certainly much more enjoyable than Diadem (though I do wish it had gathering). I mean, they've been working on this content for months (if not over a year), do you really expect them to just stop and cancel it because some people don't like it? They could do that, but they wouldn't just be able to create new relic content from scratch in the time frame - so it would just mean abandoning the relic altogether and adding less content to 4.4 and 4.5. I'd rather continue with Eureka than scrap it and leave it with an uncompleted relic.

[Floortank]

I hated running Aetherochemical Research Facility over and over and over for the umbrite step of 3.0 relic. My god, it was terrible. Eureka is far preferable to that.

[Rokke]

I hated running Aetherochemical Research Facility over and over and over for the umbrite step of 3.0 relic. My god, it was terrible. Eureka is far preferable to that.

eureka definitely a more fun content than collecting tomestones via speed running dungeons or spamming a1s

Why do people who like Eureka always fall back on this defense? You didn't need to spam ARF or A1S to complete your relic. If you didn't enjoy running the two over and over...there were alternatives.

[Floortank]

Why do people who like Eureka always fall back on this defense? You didn't need to spam ARF or A1S to complete your relic. If you didn't enjoy running the two over and over...there were alternatives.

I ran everything, but those were the fastest/most efficient, so naturally I ran a lot of those. If I didn't do A1S none of my stuff would be finished. Tracking light and doing a 30 minute 24 man for a chunk of light = might as well not even do it.

The "defense" comes from being able to do the content, and always having people available to do the content. Eureka has that, the efficient dungeons don't.

It also is because doing the same duties for no additional rewards is both A) a lot of work B) boring.

Eureka doesn't depend on me tanking every single moment I'm in there, so it's less work. And I can talk in shout, watch the chaos of a FATE unfold, mess around with bunny fates, or change camps as soon as I'm bored. I can't do any of that in a dungeon, and 24 man raids aren't conducive to any funny or interesting conversations most of the time. So Eureka provides more entertainment, and is less demanding, and thus less mind-numbing.