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    Player
    Alleo's Avatar
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    The timer you can activate will be saving me so many raging moments when I was just forgetting that I needed to gather something that only is there once per Eorzean day. Also a big like for the ability to search for our minions. No more going through all those pages again and again.

    Negative: Why do we truly need different races for mannequins and why did they only manage to give us one? Just another system that was not complete at its release and need further patches to make it so. (Or will be forgotten like the promised egi skins for us summoners..) Also why can all these mounts that will surely look strange fly but primal ponies still dont?
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    Ameela's Avatar
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    Ameela Trussa
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I may be wrong but I don't think there are any "cutscenes" missing from it - there's a lot of story missing, but that's because a lot of the story isn't told in cutscenes.

    Any conversation that just takes place with textboxes and emotes in 'normal gameplay' mode, with your UI and other players visible, isn't a cutscene even if it's important story progression.

    It's only when you cut to a more cinematic presentation (leaving your character idling with a 'filmstrip' icon to any other players) that it counts as a cutscene.

    Also any scenes that take place within dungeons (eg. if you were trying to go back and watch scenes from the ARR finale dungeons, back when new players were often forced to skip them to keep up) aren't included in chronological order in the MSQ section, but in a separate 'dungeons' tab - so some people overlooked that and didn't know where to access them.



    For revisiting non-cutscene dialogue I've been using the Garland Tools website, which has a text record of all quest dialogue except voiced cutscenes.
    I meant the cutscenes where it cuts away but isn't nearly as cinematic (you still have more complex camera angles but the characters just stand around and use regular emotes instead of custom animations)
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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Coeurl
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Nah that's actually a pretty good post, I appreciate all the thought and effort you put into it. I admit my statement was qualitative where I needed quantitative data.

    The fear, rational or no, is we'll dip back into double ranged meta. Looking at the data now, maybe that won't be the case.
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    You also forget one thing called party synergy. How much those jobs benefit from the buffs, like mch benefit 230 dps from trick attack while blm not that much etc. Another point is mch can raise DRG utility by another 300+ dps. BLM partysynergy is still pretty bad compared mch, but their personal dps is gonna be really absurb and they can probably even surpass mch in speed kills after that patch. Monk still have too good party synergy and personal dps so I think blm can not reach monks level as long mechanics allow triple melee.
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    Last edited by Sunako; 09-16-2018 at 09:41 AM.

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    Daul Ban
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    Ultros
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
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    That's why I talked about rDPS, and not pDPS. The raid DPS contribution of the different jobs is their pDPS - raid Buffs + the amount they buffed party DPS. Rolled into pDPS are all the interactions you describe. BLM might not benefit as much from party buffs, but that doesn't matter of they do more DPS with buffs removed than a MCH anyways. The xivrpds logs I linked show the difference in the raid DPS contributions if you wanna click on 'em.

    http://www.xivrdps.com/encounters/vZ6mfd1VN4rycnhJ/1
    http://www.xivrdps.com/encounters/rqZDbkd1CMhRajW8/8

    If you look at these two different reports it's easy to see on the right hand side. Nox definitely has higher raid contributions than the BLM, but when you consider the DPS they bring it's still lower than the BLM.
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    Last edited by DaulBan; 09-16-2018 at 09:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaulBan View Post
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    I mean even if mch rdps looks pretty low, mch still bring lot more rdps for other members than what blm would. Like drg would not get 600 rdps from piercing without mch.
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    Daul Ban
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    Ultros
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    I mean even if mch rdps looks pretty low, mch still bring lot more rdps for other members than what blm would. Like drg would not get 600 rdps from piercing without mch.
    If the rDPS gain on piercing is 600, 300 per ranged phys, and then you replace the MCH with a BLM, you gain rDPS (6624 => 7163) and then lose 300 from the piercing loss. Just doing this comparison, you still would gain 240 DPS.\

    edit: I take this back entirely because this is just a misunderstanding in full:

    Saying another job's rDPS goes down because another job is introduced is immaterial so long as the job that gets slotted out has higher rDPS than the job it replaced. Sure, a DRG might do 300 fewer rDPS than a BLM because it's not getting that piercing, but that 300 DPS it lost is just rolled into the normal rDPS of the BLM. It hasn't disappeared, you can't count it twice, it's just DPS not affected by the piercing. DRG's rDPS drops, but Overall DPS does not change because the effect of piercing was removed in the calculation. Raid buffs just drop, but the end rDPS of the group remains the same if you sum the damage on the right hand side. Or it goes up in the case of BLM vs MCH on O6S.
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    Last edited by DaulBan; 09-16-2018 at 06:21 PM.
    One day I'll be the MT mountain I want to be... But that day is not today. (As of Patch 3.2)

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    Drako Redwyne
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    Adamantoise
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    Lancer Lv 70
    It’s sad that pyros isn’t even out yet and it already seems like Eurekas final nail in the coffin. Thanks SE for a adding more rng on top of triple rng. Count me out. I’ll just stick to savage
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