I have to admit, as someone who finished 4 relics in ARR and HW, I’ve yet to even get my first relic through pagos. I got step 1 and 2 done through levelling to 35, that felt natural, my relic progressed as I did, much like how light farming in HW came from content I was doing anyway. But then step 3 requires MORE LIGHT FARMING THAN STEP 1 AND 2 COMBINED when I’m already finished with any progression in pagos, so I’m farming that light for the sake of farming that light and nothing else. That’s where I left it and I don’t know if I can motivate myself to pick it back up, let alone do 3 more. This is the first time for a relic where I’ve thought “I’ll Just wait til they nerf it”.

That said, I am going to TRY and force myself through the light farm for at least one relic because I am interested in pyros for the logos system. When I saw the magia board in anemos I felt it was kind of an underdeveloped system and it would have been better if they’d just gone for a system similar to the paradigm system in 13 and that sounds like what the logos system is aiming to be.