Red Mage Changes

[Kabooa]

It's a hybrid concept, not a hybrid role. We don't have hybrid roles in this game.

As others have said, there's not much room in this game for a healing RDM. Healers are powerful af, to the point where everything that "requires" 2 healers can be done with 1 skilled one. So we are left with situations where either the RDM isn't strong enough in damage (because it has so much healing), or perhaps their healing is so strong you could take 2 and forego bringing any healer at all. Either way it's not a good problem to create.

It should be painfully obvious that it wouldn't result in the desired outcome. RDM has superior healing and resurrection abilities now and it's in the shape that it's in. I think they've done the best they could with the job for this particular iteration. Granted I haven't touched RDM.. So it's just my uninformed and totally biased opinion.

People tend to ignore contingency uses when looking at Vercure.

Oh I was .5y from getting Cure 3. Guess I'll die. - Everyone else

[Dualgunner]

People tend to ignore contingency uses when looking at Vercure.

Oh I was .5y from getting Cure 3. Guess I'll die. - Everyone else

I also tend to avoid being in a position I need that contingency.

[Jkap_Goat]

this is not FF11 where one job can fill multiple roles
like ninjas being a tank or Blu and Rdm being jack of all trades
ff14 is built around the Three roles
just because samurai and monk have defense buffs means that they can tank
just because RDM and PLD have a heal spell means they can be a healer

That's why as a new player to FFXI, I'm enjoying it more than FFXIV, don't get me wrong I love FFXIV and I want to see it thrive, but I'm enjoying the roles like DNC, a hybrid melee healer. To me FFXI RDM is better than FFXIV and will greatly representative how a RDM should be.

[Jkap_Goat]

It literally isn't that. You're shoving your opinions off on RDM. Stop It.

It's a dps. The icon is red. There isn't a debate to be had here. NIN worked as a tank in FFXI but that doesn't mean it has to be a tank in this game. MNK functions as a tanky healer in FFXII IZJS, still a dps in FFXIV.

Lore, function and classification can differ from game to game.

Sorry but this is a fourm and I'm clearly in my right to express my opinion. If you don't like it you can , you know ignore me or you can express your opinion too.

[Selova]

Sorry but this is a fourm and I'm clearly in my right to express my opinion. If you don't like it you can , you know ignore me or you can express your opinion too.

As long as you are fine with your opinion being wrong, more power to you then. A hybrid class means it can fill more than 1 role and while RDM can throw out some clutch rez's and heals in a sticky situation it does not have the capability or toolkit to perform any other role than what it actually is, a dps.

[Dualgunner]

It's a hybrid, do you know what a RDM is? WHM+BLM = RDM. I feel like if they really wanted a true DPS they should of never added a Hybrid job from the final fantasy series the game where it's know for it's uses in pure white and black magic, stuck Trinity system where it can't not be it's true self, it would be better if they added a support role but the Trinity system holds it back.

And in FFXIV, white magic is every bit the attack magic as black magic. Otherwise there wouldn't have been much of a mage war. Just so happens white magic can be used to heal.

[Zerathor]

And in FFXIV, white magic is every bit the attack magic as black magic. Otherwise there wouldn't have been much of a mage war. Just so happens white magic can be used to heal.

Black magic is much more slimming and matches every other magic well though. Clearly the superior choice.

[Kabooa]

Black magic is much more slimming and matches every other magic well though. Clearly the superior choice.

It's just like ZZtop sang in their hit single, "Sharp Cast Man"

[Voidedge_Ragna]

I'd like to see you clear anything with rdms as healer lol the poor soul ... rdm and tank. Theres nothing in the rdm tool kit to claim a right as healer or even hybrid.

Whm having stone doesnt make it a hybrid dps
Mnk having a def stance doesn't make it a tank
Pld having clemency doesn't make it a healer
Rdm having vercure does not make it a healer!

Hybrid would mean it could choose its side of the coin. The only thing close to s hybrid in the game is a arcanist if you consider sch and smn as one class.

Theres no room for hybrids and as a rdm the last thing you want to do is being a forum healer and wait around for someone to take dmg then cast heal.

You have the right to post you opinion here and we have the right to tell you you are wrong.

[Maero]

Sooo what does everyone think of the "changes" ?
I honestly have not been on overly much and only ran The Burn thus far because well... Spiderman, haha