Red Mage Changes

[Maero]

I have heard on balance Discord that finally Red Mage will be seeing changes.
No post exists here yet so let's discuss. Curious to see players opinion.

I think it's about damn time, every job has seen change (or multiple changes) while RM basically remained the same. People are saying it will be a aoe buff along with possibly ST damage but manafication may see slight decrease. I have not really looked at what was said all too much.

[Zerathor]

I highly doubt they'll majorly overhaul a job on the last major content patch of an expansion. I think what I would like to see is embolden effecting all damage types, verraise becoming instant cast 1 minute cd, and a light potency increase across the board.

I feel like rdm should be slightly ahead of bard on personal damage, while their total group dps contribution to dps still behind brd by a small ammount.

That's really just my personal view on it though, I don't even play rdm. I feel they're meant to be a utility job, but not necessarily a rez slave job for brute force prog and learn mechs to then switch to smn for the kill. If they gained some kind of better group damage boost, while still having an easy less spamable raise(to counter ballance the damage boost) in their kit, it would become pretty desirable.

[Bhearil]

In theory RDM have access to insta res at will, but in practice a RDM will run dry if he res more than 1 person per minute since he lacks any kind of mp regen outside Lucid Dreaming, so realistically speaking he has the same ressing power as a SMN, with the difference that he can frontload for example 2 res on 1 minute as long as he doesnt need to res for a while to recover mp (that also affects to RDM Mana Shift btw)

Also the heal is pretty meh outside soloing/4 man dungeons and Embolden is by far the worst group buff of the entire game. Even Brotherhood adds more raid damage and dont forget the extra chakras suplied to the monk as a bonus, plus its a pain to coordinate burst on the initial 4 seconds window to get the most of it. Even using it as a selfish buff the RDM is unable to land his full burst combo due to lack of time (4 gcd for the 3 empowered weaponskills + finisher>> 4 seconds)

On other games RDM is often portrayed as a jack of all trades probably half dps half support, but here on his current state Summoner not only outdamage him by FAR, but also can res, have better mp regen AND better raid buffs to boot.

Unless things change on 5.0 seems that they designed RDM to be a dps first with some support skills second, because a laughable raid buff with the ability to res (healing is not even worth mentioning on high level content aside preparing an instacast when no targets near) doesnt justify being the barrel bottom of the dps

Its been confirmed that RDM is receiving both aoe and single target buffs but nothing specific yet, but they mentioned both RDM and BLM are being outperformed badly by the SMN and they try to bring RDM dps similar to SMN while giving BLM the magic dps crown

[Ardox]

Embolden goes from 10% to 2% on 20 sec; it's an average of 5% buff for 20 sec; it's 7% for the first 16 seconds ... Brotherhood is 5% for 15 sec.
Explain me how embolden is worst than Brotherhood

[Dualgunner]

Embolden goes from 10% to 2% on 20 sec; it's an average of 5% buff for 20 sec; it's 7% for the first 16 seconds ... Brotherhood is 5% for 15 sec.
Explain me how embolden is worst than Brotherhood

30% chance to gain chakra when anybody affected by it uses a weaponskill. It would be similar if during embo's duration we had passive mana generation.

Also consider the job giving it vastly outdpses RDM, if we're gonna do 1:1 comparisons.

[Zyneste]

All I want is for Fleche to bring piercing resistance down, which would help solve piercings issue while raising RDM dps in non Drg comps by 1%.

This on top of making embolden physical and magical damage up, buffing fleche, contre, displace and corps, while also buffing all other magical attacks in the party.

I want RDM to stay close to bard as well in terms of raw DPS and sit near the bottom.

The buffs to SMN have caused a crisis similar to 3.xs ranged buff rat race between brd and mch. In the next expac, hopefully, smn will be reeled in and balanced. Right now BLM is 100th percentile. RDM is 89th. SMN is 98, causing it to be too close to BLM, who is losing its personal dps identity. RDM is too low comparative to the utility SMN brings and it's 98th percentile dps so it also needs a large buff to bring it closer.

Just how I feel about it.

[Bhearil]

30% chance to gain chakra when anybody affected by it uses a weaponskill. It would be similar if during embo's duration we had passive mana generation.

Also consider the job giving it vastly outdpses RDM, if we're gonna do 1:1 comparisons.

Someone did the math and the damage it brings Brotherhood is in fact, superior to Embolden despite Monk personal damage being really close to the top.

Embolden wouldnt be so bad if they gave it to a high dps class such as Samurai, giving him a small raid buff to compensate for his high damage and avoiding a class to become too op (anyone still remembers 2.0 bards pre nerf when they were basically BLMs with bow, instacast and crazy utility that some people made raids with 4 bards as dps?). Problem is that they gave it to the lowest dps job that utility wise only have a res on high content, not counting the fact its been years since we are on a physical meta, which detracts from bringing casters unless they are really good

[Sunako]

Lol embolden is not worst raid dps utility in game. It is 10 + 8 + 6 + 4 + 2 / 5 = average 6% damage with same 1/6 uptime than brotherhood. On top of that it have good synergy between chain stratagem, trick attack, hypercharge etc while nobody else have 90 sec timer on their raidwide buff, I think so? It bring over 500 dps for good parties, problem is not utility, but rdm personal dps.

[gumas]

Just saw the (preliminary) patch, i dont see anything change on RDM, just increase potency buff thats it.

[Sunako]

Just saw the (preliminary) patch, i dont see anything change on RDM, just increase potency buff thats it.

Not only that, that radiant shield change make summoner lose around 150 dps.