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    Bacent's Avatar
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    Bacent Rekkes
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    Famfrit
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    Gladiator Lv 90

    SE in the future bugger off with the damn dragons

    There's super rare loot when doing the rabbit fates. You have a tiny chance for a gold chest. What's worse is that some of the locations are in areas you have to jump off of cliffs to get to. There's dragons at the bottom of them. even when toggling walk, there have been multiple times I've either died on impact, or being aggroed by the dragon before I could react. This has happened to me and multiple others who I've partied with for the rabbit fates.

    Now, is SE actually messing with us on purpose at this point? It's easy enough to fall off the whole cliff and have to go all the way back around to some place, but putting a dragon at the bottom of where you need to jump is just a jackass move.
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    Berteaux_Braumegain's Avatar
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    Berteaux Braumegain
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Pagos is basically "Spite: The Instance". Every design choice seems intentionally set up to punish people for having fun the unintended way in Anemos.
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    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    Xoria Tepes
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Are you ... actually supposed to fall off the cliff? If not, its just a punishment for making a mistake.
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
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    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

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    Miste's Avatar
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    Miste Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    Are you ... actually supposed to fall off the cliff? If not, its just a punishment for making a mistake.
    There are cliffs you have to fall off of to access caves on the sides of the cliff. They are inaccessible unless you fall off.

    So, yeah you are supposed to fall off, it is the only way to get to some areas.

    As for OP some things I noticed which may help you.

    The dragon will still aggro if you get too close while walking, stay as far as possible without touching its model.

    Make sure Walk Mode is on when you fall off the cliff. Do not fall off near the dragon, try to land a bit away from it.

    If someone else aggros the dragon and is subsequently killed the dragon can reset to its sleeping spot, and if you are ontop of or infront of the dragon when it goes back to lay down the small time between it going back to sleep it can see you and aggro no matter if you are walking or not. So in other words someone else can kill you if they aggro it and die and you are standing in a bad spot.

    Pets will aggro the dragon no matter what if they get close, desummon any pet when going by a dragon.
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    I've been able to walk straight through the dragons without waking them up, so I feel like there's something else that's causing them to attack in that situation.

    I've heard latency can cause the game to think you weren't walking for a split second, though.
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    Apple Jinx
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    Ultros
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    You aggroed the dragon because you didn't start walking immediately. If you die from the fall then it means you aggro'ed something before you jumped off the cliff. These mechanics have been in the game since forever ago and this isn't a eureka and pagos exclusive problem.
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Cuchulainn
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Dragons in pagos is really bugged. Once I walked by one and then used party chat and dragon woke up and killed me when wasn't even moving. Another time I used a emote and the dragon woke up and killed me when was just standing next to my party at the time. Another time raised a player and it woke up and killed me and other player that just raised.
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    Last edited by hynaku; 09-06-2018 at 11:35 AM.

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    Berteaux Braumegain
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    Another time I used a emote and the dragon woke up and killed me when was just standing next to my party at the time.
    Which emote?
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    Knives Jonquil
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    I once fistbumped a dragon and had it kill me. I guess it was neither "chill," nor my "bro."
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    Bacent Rekkes
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    Quote Originally Posted by AppleJinx View Post
    You aggroed the dragon because you didn't start walking immediately. If you die from the fall then it means you aggro'ed something before you jumped off the cliff. These mechanics have been in the game since forever ago and this isn't a eureka and pagos exclusive problem.
    Don't assume I wasn't walking thanks. I toggled walk ON before jumping off the cliff. And no, there was nothing on me. When I landed I was dead and the dragon moved for a split second during this.

    Eureka Pagos is the only place where this specific combination can actually happen. And when you're doing one of the damn chest hunts with the rabbits, it's nothing but a big middle finger from SE.
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