Level Syncing isn't the best solution

[Kurando]

It's a PC game.....

It was made purely for the smartphone market but did have a PC port. It still is not in the same basket as FFXI or XIV, seriously. And as some mentioned, it's not completely developed by SE so stop putting it under the same umbrella. SE currently has 2 main stream MMOs, FFXIV and Dragon Quest, (as well as FFXI which is still going). But again if you want to include Type 0, we should also include Dissidia Omnia, Brave Exvius etc, they are all played online by millions of players, therefore MMOs.

[SannaR]

Final Fantasy TYPE-0 Online was developed by Perfect World, not Square Enix. Square Enix is the publisher. If we count that, then they publish Dragon Quest X as well, and very much consider it an MMO.

As for the TYPE-0 Online itself...Perfect World develops MMO's. Press, reviewers etc. also consider it an MMO. The reason being rather obvious. It's a multiplayer only, server-based game. It's not a peer-to-peer multiplayer. Multiplayer is not "an option" either. It's the entire game. It's no different than FFXIV duties, really.

Though Square Enix DID develop an MMO fantasy team vs team game some time ago...but it failed terribly and was canceled. I don't remember its name anymore though.

Funny since the little I was able to look up about it nothing mentioned it being labeled as a mmo. With Dragon Quest X SE has stated that it's an mmo. Even Yoshida the few times he's talked about it has called it that. Anyway doesn't matter as it's not part of the main topic.

[Dualgunner]

Final Fantasy TYPE-0 Online was developed by Perfect World, not Square Enix. Square Enix is the publisher. If we count that, then they publish Dragon Quest X as well, and very much consider it an MMO.

As for the TYPE-0 Online itself...Perfect World develops MMO's. Press, reviewers etc. also consider it an MMO. The reason being rather obvious. It's a multiplayer only, server-based game. It's not a peer-to-peer multiplayer. Multiplayer is not "an option" either. It's the entire game. It's no different than FFXIV duties, really.

Though Square Enix DID develop an MMO fantasy team vs team game some time ago...but it failed terribly and was canceled. I don't remember its name anymore though.

Can you tell me what reviewers specifically are calling it an MMO? All I'm finding is "multiplayer action rpg" which is not an MMO.

[Freyt]

I want too post something more constructive to this topic. You can't just simply nerf high level abilities as way to make them useable in low level dungeons. It may seem that simple until you start comparing the potencies of high level abilities to similar low level ones. Ill break this down so it can be better understood, Ill use Cure and Cure II as examples:

Cure has a Potency of 450

Cure II has a Potency of 700

In a palace like Tam tara deepcroft. A sync'd level 70 white mages Cure easily restores +60% of low level tanks HP, note this is just from one Cure. If the 450 potency of Cure heals that much then 700 brought by cure II will be a flat out full hp heal; So for a sync'd level 70 white mage too use Cure II. Cure would need its potency lowered too a point that Cure itself becomes pointless to cast and waste of mana. As a AST currently one cast of Benefic in Tam tara does exactly what I described while Sync'd. This is why you dont get your full tool kit when sync'd, as there are higher level abilites that when dropped to lower levels make lower level abilites useless. The Unsync feature exists so High level players can run old content with their full tool kit; sync exists so high level players can help low level players. It does not exist so high level players can show off their abilities like a fashion show!!

If you want to show off what you can do, goto limsa or Gridiana and spam your abilites that work outside of combat.

Premise is flawed. With this argument, no one would use Cure even unsynced. Regardless, as Cure easily restores +60% of low level tanks HP, they'll function nearly the same no matter how they're used. The White Mage will wait until the tank is low and use their Cure I or Cure II to make sure they don't die, and then resume DPS'ing (or not). All that changes is how far they let their tank drop, and heaven forbid they let their tank drop even lower than usual and end up letting their tank die on accident. In the end you get increased performance, which isn't a bad thing, which is another flaw in your premise, that things going faster and smoother is somehow a bad thing.

To begin with, Cure II isn't exactly an ability people are clamoring to use in early dungeons. They're talking about things like Draw, Jump, Blood Weapon, Deliverance, and other abilities that drastically change how you play the job if you have those abilities available or not.

In your eyes it may be showing off, but in other people's eyes it's refusing to put the training wheels back on when you can ride the bike just as well as anybody else.

[Sigma-Astra]

Read again.
Someone said that there is already another FF MMO that does storytelling better than FFXIV.
I said that there isn't.
You replied what you replied. Next time you reply, have context please.


Also, for the millionth time, FINAL FANTASY Type-0 Online. Read people.

You can't argue that people aren't reading when you're trying to pawn off a mobile game as an MMO and they're not even CLOSE towards the same genre tropes, expectations, or stipulations involved.

[Maeka]

Online != MMO.

MMO = Massively Multiplayer Online.

When you say MMO, you are talking about a "massive" amount of people (100+) in the same persistent game world.

A game like Warframe is not "Massively Multiplayer" (or at least it wasn't until Plains of Eidolon came out and even then that's debatable) because usually you get 1-4 Tenno in one mission and everybody sits in a lobby while they're not in a mission. That's just an Online game, much like Diablo or Borderlands.

An MMO game is where you interact with a game world that hundreds of other players also occupy and you will randomly see these other players during the course of play.

Mobile games typically don't have that, they usually have lobbies and matchmaking from my understanding.

[TaleraRistain]

It's been a bit since I've played, but I'm pretty sure EverQuest II lowers the potency on your skills when you sync yourself down to a certain level. You retain the abilities, but they're balanced for output at that level. It works really well and it's not game-breaking because skill ranges are set so you don't overlevel content.

[kikix12]

Can you tell me what reviewers specifically are calling it an MMO? All I'm finding is "multiplayer action rpg" which is not an MMO.

https://mmoculture.com/2016/07/final...d-at-chinajoy/
http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/Andro...ws.asp?c=70360


https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...lfantasy&hl=pl

Just check tags for these two:
https://www.gry-online.pl/gry/final-...-online/z028cc

https://mmorpg.org.pl/news/zobacz/na...iez-na-pc-tach


Frankly, it's hard to actually find ANYTHING about this game. Most searches seem to show the TYPE-0 or HD versions...It didn't help that somewhere on its way it was rebranded into "Awakening", either.

[Darrcyphfeid]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwTh5rC_ZE8

Looks close enough to an MMO to me that we'd be splitting hairs, but if this is an MMO it's also fair to say that a number of other games are as well. Doesn't really matter though, 'cause it also looks like complete garbage and shouldn't be directly compared to XI or XIV.

But if you want to, uh, this is by far the worst of the three? And XI is still the best. So yeah. I don't even remember what dude's original point was anymore.

[MomomiMomi]

The whole thing about whether Type-0 was an MMO or not was actually irrelevant to what his point was anyway, lol.