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    Darrcyphfeid's Avatar
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    Kiraine Kalivarsa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post
    Really don't see what you'd gain out of making the higher level abilities almost worthless, might as well just simply level Sync. They both do the same exact freaking thing. Well, ok, I suppose you could waste GCDs on worthless abilities.... but why?
    The modern form of the Ice Mage.

    Some men just want to watch the world burn.
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    Maeka Blazewing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrcyphfeid View Post
    The modern form of the Ice Mage.

    Some men just want to watch the world burn.
    Uh, an Ice Mage doesn't want the world to burn, because if they did, they'd be casting Fire instead.
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    Rhomagus Asclepiot
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    What, may I ask, is the point in doing that!?
    Same reason as already stated by the OP. To maintain rotation. Pretty simple answer.

    "Here, have Fire IV in Sastasha..... but it will do jack all for damage, so you might as well not even use it."
    "Here, have [Diamond Armor of Casting] in Sastasha... but it will do jack all for [stats], so you might as well [wear level appropriate gear and support the low level crafting economy."

    See how that works. Not exactly mind bending.

    And how would you TELL which abilities are good and which aren't? "Gee, is Fire III available in Brayflox normally? I gotta look it up to see if it is even worth casting" .
    You're joking right? Open the Actions and Traits menu. Problem solved. Wow! You're really giving me curve balls here.

    Really don't see what you'd gain out of making the higher level abilities almost worthless, might as well just simply level Sync. They both do the same exact freaking thing. Well, ok, I suppose you could waste GCDs on worthless abilities.... but why?
    "Really don't see what you'd gain out of [wearing level sync'd gear and nerfing it's stats in sync'd dungeons] might as well just simply [level crafting and always have level appropriate gear]. They both do the same exact freaking thing. Well, ok, I suppose you could waste [glamour prisms and gil on emperor's new gear]… but why?"

    Wow! You've completely blown my mind! It's like, there's a legit reason why people want to have the convenience to the things they already have unlocked while also showing gear off to their lower level compatriots and friends and encouraging them to stick with the game so they could get those things too. NO WAY MAN WHOA!
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhomagus View Post
    Same reason as already stated by the OP. To maintain rotation. Pretty simple answer.
    Have you forgotten how quickly things die in low lvl content? You wouldn't be able to do anything resembling a full lvl 70 rotation on anything other than a boss. You would get far better practise on dummies in a garden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhomagus View Post
    Nope, just nerf abilities above the level of the dungeon. That easy. You can choose to do the whole rotation, but you'd be better served by doing the rotation at level. You can either nerf them so much that abilities above the cap do literally zero damage or miss, or, you can nerf them so that they don't do enough damage to be more potent than a lower level rotation.
    This is the most absurd thing I've seen in this thread. Making them do 0 damage or miss is just completely pointless, and nerfing them for every single dungeon is a huge amount of resources that would have to be spent, just so that the players would be better off doing what they were doing before all those resources were wasted.

    Why? Why would the devs want to do this? You have to answer this question if you want to seriously request a feature. What would be the gain, and how many people would even want the result?


    If this was to be implemented as you describe it, I would honestly kick someone for wasting my time the moment I see them doing a high level rotation. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be alone in that. I'm a pretty patient person, I've even put up with Ice Mages without kicking them. But a high level player doing this, who's just doing it to show off? Get out of my party.
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    Last edited by MomomiMomi; 09-10-2018 at 04:00 PM.

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    Well this thread sure has nothing to do with helping low levels and is more about high levels showing off..
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    Well this thread sure has nothing to do with helping low levels and is more about high levels showing off..
    Less of that and more of, "I've experienced a MUCH better play style than just 1 2 and don't want to go back to 1 2 because that is boring."
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    "I've experienced a MUCH better play style than just 1 2 and don't want to go back to 1 2 because that is boring."
    If one don't want to, then one shouldn't do it. Otherwise, the game already offers significant rewards with the roulette bonuses.
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 09-10-2018 at 10:30 PM. Reason: Fixed fo generalization.

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    Sanna Rosewood
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    If you don't want to, then don't do it. If you want, the game already offers significant rewards with the roulette bonuses.
    Read their post again. They're not saying that they are like that, but those in the thread who want the devs to allow a full 70 skill set so they can show off are like that.
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    Read their post again. They're not saying that they are like that, but those in the thread who want the devs to allow a full 70 skill set so they can show off are like that.
    I fixed my comment since it was not specifically directed at Deceptus.

    But like NanaWiloh said, the roulette is meant to reward one for helping low levels, not showing off. If one want to brag, it's easy to make a video showing the rotation and the DPS number on a dummy.
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