Thread: Patch 4.4 (Prelude in Violet) Speculation Thread! (Possible spoilers [NO LEAKS])

To me the jury is still out on exactly how accurate the whole 'Echo allows a person to transcend death' thing really is, as there are plenty of cases of Echo users dying... and staying dead (you just have to look at the Path of the Twelve, the Sions' predecessor organization pior to the Calamity - nearly all their members were awoken to the Echo and yet most perished in the Battle of Carteneau.

And especially Una Tayuun and her friends Satzloh and Percevains (the miqo'te, roegadyn and elezen Scions who were originally members of the Path who had amnesia in the Waking Sands, only to be all killed when Livia and her Garlean thugs raided the place) is further proof to the contrary, given we buried their deceased remains at the Church of Saint Adama Landama (and their souls are later found in the Palace of the Dead to boot!), and yet all three had the Echo (this was confirmed back in 1.0), which this is pretty telling that the Echo does not allow a person to cheat death.. at least by default.

Instead, personally I think this transcendence with the Echo only comes about with sufficent mastery of it - or if an outside force transcends that person for them (this would definetely ring true for Minfilia at least, if not Evil!Derplander and his friends). And even Zenos coming back from the dead can sort of be handwaved by the simple fact it is not the actual Echo he has, but an artificial similacrum of it, and throw in Elidibus using him as his meatsuit.... and it opens up a whole new can of aetheric worms.