Thread: 4.4 Trailer!

Originally Posted by RiyahArp

It can't be midgardsormr, midgard in this game is big enough to where his original trial has us face only his head. He was larger than shinryu, large enough to completely wrap around a garlean battleship to bring it down. I'm surprised everyone has forgotten this.

It's pretty obvious that it is Midgardsormr. The size can be explained because Omega recreates fights and beings by the memories he has stored. Knowing that he fought a long time ago against Midgardsormr, it is quite possible that he could choose the size and make it a miniature version. This is not the real Midgardsormr that we will face, but a memory recreated by Omega.

I am amazed at how much some people are trying to refute Midgarsorm as a boss here.
It is as they don't even read the storyline while playing, I don't see any other explanation.

So far, Mid is the only being that managed to damage Omega, even not clearly said, it is pretty obvious with how they interact that Mid cause the damages that made Omega to land on Hydaelin and fell into slumber.
It is so far the strongest foe the machine ever encountered, and it is no surprise we face a recreation of how Mid was when they faced each other right before fighting against omega.

As for the size argument, it is mentionned that dragons keep growing the older they get. Midgardsorm wraped around the Agrius is way older than when Omega met him. Allag was around 5000 years before when we are playing, and they found Omega already here, stating that Omega have faced Mid more than 5000 years ago.
Based on the trailer, he looks like being the size of Niddhogr and Hraesvelgr, so they may faced each other when mid was around the age of his children.

We will face the true strengh of midgardsorm, when he was younger and hasn't sacrified his power by bonding with hydaelin.

Originally Posted by RiyahArp

It can't be midgardsormr, midgard in this game is big enough to where his original trial has us face only his head. He was larger than shinryu, large enough to completely wrap around a garlean battleship to bring it down. I'm surprised everyone has forgotten this.

Yes...the actual Midgardsormr is massive.

We haven't fought any of the actual characters - just creations that Omega made for its tournament. Do you really think that Kefka in his normal form is that huge? Nay, he would be closer to The Griffin's size in a fight. We just don't see that because, 1) a human-sized Kefka would be a pain to deal with in a raid and 2) this is Omega's design. So Midgardsormr being a fight is completely feasible in here, because it doesn't have to be scaled to his actual size - Omega can make Midgard as large or as small as it desires. Even if it is Midgardsormr himself, he has shown that he can create whatever avatar, and whatever size, that he desires.

Originally Posted by Tizzy_Tormentor

Bahamut Prime? Alexander Prime? What are those?

I would say its very likely Midgard, although he kind of just went back to sleep after using all his strength to help us out of a jam, I am curious as to how he would be used in the story, a fight would be most interesting. I also can't see a random dragon popping up this far into the tier, at least Chaos has final boss cred to back his appearance up.

It doesn't seem far-fetched that it could simply be an "imaginary" version of Middy that Omega incarnated for the purpose of our "test". Didn't Middy also prevent Omega from nuking us earlier in the story line? From that, perhaps Omega was able to catch a glimpse of Middy's power and was able to use that to create the battle. It's hard to imagine we'd be fighting the real Middy, though I suppose there is also some rationale for Omega to think along the lines of "this being might be as strong as me so I'll make you take him down first" (to get him out of the way so he can't interrupt real fight against Omega)

IDK. I'm pretty psyched. More than I thought I would be!

Originally Posted by whiskeybravo

It doesn't seem far-fetched that it could simply be an "imaginary" version of Middy that Omega incarnated for the purpose of our "test". Didn't Middy also prevent Omega from nuking us earlier in the story line? From that, perhaps Omega was able to catch a glimpse of Middy's power and was able to use that to create the battle. It's hard to imagine we'd be fighting the real Middy, though I suppose there is also some rationale for Omega to think along the lines of "this being might be as strong as me so I'll make you take him down first" (to get him out of the way so he can't interrupt real fight against Omega)

IDK. I'm pretty psyched. More than I thought I would be!

I can certainly see it being a recreation of him made by Omega to test us, that part I can definitely see, regardless of whether or not its the real one or a recreation, I can't see that fight being anything other than Midgard.
Either way, not long to wait, so we shall see, I'm more interested to see the very last fight, if the leaks are true it could be a very interesting fight indeed.

Originally Posted by whiskeybravo

It doesn't seem far-fetched that it could simply be an "imaginary" version of Middy that Omega incarnated for the purpose of our "test". Didn't Middy also prevent Omega from nuking us earlier in the story line? From that, perhaps Omega was able to catch a glimpse of Middy's power and was able to use that to create the battle. It's hard to imagine we'd be fighting the real Middy, though I suppose there is also some rationale for Omega to think along the lines of "this being might be as strong as me so I'll make you take him down first" (to get him out of the way so he can't interrupt real fight against Omega)

IDK. I'm pretty psyched. More than I thought I would be!

Omega has fought Midgardsormr before. In fact, Midgardsormr is currently the only thing to actually damage Omega, if I recall correctly. So Omega knows how strong Grandad Wyrm was in his Prime.
Omega likely made Midgardsormr a contender because this will most likely affect our characters in some shape or form (while it may just be data, we are technically going to kill a version of a dragon who has been with us since 2.5 and has saved us from being deleted).

Originally Posted by whiskeybravo

It doesn't seem far-fetched that it could simply be an "imaginary" version of Middy that Omega incarnated for the purpose of our "test". Didn't Middy also prevent Omega from nuking us earlier in the story line? From that, perhaps Omega was able to catch a glimpse of Middy's power and was able to use that to create the battle. It's hard to imagine we'd be fighting the real Middy, though I suppose there is also some rationale for Omega to think along the lines of "this being might be as strong as me so I'll make you take him down first" (to get him out of the way so he can't interrupt real fight against Omega)

IDK. I'm pretty psyched. More than I thought I would be!

Omega has fought Midgardsormr before, though. He'd know plenty about how powerful he was without that. Heck, he even talks to Middy about that earlier in Sigmascape.

Dragons are like every other animal in that they have different stages of life. Further, Omega and Midgardsormr fought aeons ago, and he is also known to have several other forms we have seen. It makes sense that this could be a representation of Middy in his Prime.