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    Player AppleJinx's Avatar
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    Apple Jinx
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    Can't believe I am the first to make this comment so here I go.
    *Inhales* If you don't LIKE it, then don't BUY it!!!
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    Voltyblast's Avatar
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    Rama Kagon
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    Quote Originally Posted by AppleJinx View Post
    Can't believes I am the first to make this comment so here I go.
    *Inhales* If you don't LIKE it, then don't BUY it!!!
    Not to burst your bubble, but that was the same thing when they introduced the mogshop and people said: "if you don't like the stuff, don't buy them!". And a few years later look at the situation of the cash shop...

    Bottom line, we might not like it NOW, but in a few years, they might add additional unlocks that will make us wanna buy them...I mean it did happen with the cash shop, why not with the app?
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Voltyblast View Post
    Not to burst your bubble, but that was the same thing when they introduced the mogshop and people said: "if you don't like the stuff, don't buy them!". And a few years later look at the situation of the cash shop...

    Bottom line, we might not like it NOW, but in a few years, they might add additional unlocks that will make us wanna buy them...I mean it did happen with the cash shop, why not with the app?
    You mean... nothing changed? Mogstation has remained cosmetic only since its inception. And even the items added have mostly been ported from the Chinese/Korean version or past events. The one exception are jump potions, but those aren't p2w by any stretch.

    So yes, the whole "Don't like it. Don't buy it" still applies.
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    Same old rant thread. Never gets old.

    Popcorn anyone?



    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    So, at least someone online here considers "extremely inconvenient storage in Chocobo Saddlebags" as pay-to-win?

    hahahahahaha

    That joke never gets old ...
    And having 1 more retainer is P2W too!

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    Now introducing The Ultra Companion App (5 years from now)

    Premium

    -Double tomestone space
    -Triple inventory space
    -Gain access to extra presets in Character Creation
    -Enable Account-Wide features on all past purchases
    -Gain one more additional loot from any dgn and raids
    -Quadruple the amount of Kupo nuts you can hold! (OMG, that's so amazing)
    -Access to the Viera race
    -Triple your MGP gain
    -"Limitations" and "Server Stress" mysteriously disappears (woooo)
    -Gender restrictions on gear is now removed
    -You can select pieces of an outfit from the mogstation to buy individually (We could've done that 5 years ago but SERVER STRESS!!)
    -Overmeld your gear...by not eight, not nine but TEN SLOTS (sugoi)
    -Glamour storage can now hold 1000 pieces of gear....PER SLOT



    Man, 2023 is gonna be AWESOME
    You forgot you get a ultimate title and weapon of choice.

    Quote Originally Posted by AppleJinx View Post
    Can't believe I am the first to make this comment so here I go.
    *Inhales* If you don't LIKE it, then don't BUY it!!!
    Get out with your logic!
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    Last edited by Luna-M; 09-06-2018 at 03:50 PM.
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    swiss_Momo's Avatar
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    Noel Maimhov
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    Lich
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    Bard Lv 90
    hAvInG mOrE iNvEnTORy SpAcE iS p2w!

    man, I can't wait for my new extra retainer to bring me back an ultimate clear and for my chocobo to rank top 3 in the current feast season!

    gil are incredibly useless in this game. Having lots of it is an amenity at best for being able to jump the latest glam bandwagon a bit faster
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    Player Beckett's Avatar
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    Beckard Arseneau
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    Quote Originally Posted by swiss_Momo View Post
    hAvInG mOrE iNvEnTORy SpAcE iS p2w!

    man, I can't wait for my new extra retainer to bring me back an ultimate clear and for my chocobo to rank top 3 in the current feast season!

    gil are incredibly useless in this game. Having lots of it is an amenity at best for being able to jump the latest glam bandwagon a bit faster
    It's been said before, but I'll say it again; The ability to pay to use the market board from outside of the game is a very limited form of pay-to-win, but it's pay-to-win none the less.

    If you have two people that are selling things on the marketboard, but are both away from their computers, the person who is willing to pay real life money to use the premium services of the companion app has a clear and undeniable advantage over the person who is not spending real money.

    "Gil is useless" or "This doesn't directly effect me" is not a good reason to support what is unquestionably a pay-to-win scenario.
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    MicahZerrshia's Avatar
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    Nadja Zielle
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    I haven't even downloaded the free version. It just seems like it would be wasted space on my phone. I doesn't really do anything that important, I mean I cannot think of a reason someone would have to sit at work and sort their inventory on their phone. And as someone who doesn't play the marketboard since I have a mansion already and have no real need to buy anything and even then its too expensive anyways since the 1 or 2 times I day I could do it free seems pointless. idk they could have done something great but they didn't and it really was a waste of resources imo. Just seems like they are fishing for whales with it.
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    Noodle_Trinidad's Avatar
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    Noodle Sil'vaadle
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    Excalibur
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Honestly a "Freemium" Companion App from a Subscription Based game is pretty atrocious in my eyes. As it stands its pretty subpar at doing what its meant to do, storage modification really means nothing when everything is saved client and the fact that they limit use because of stress issues really speaks volumes at the work they've done to alleviate the spaghetti code of their rushed out rebuild of the 1.0 game into 2.0. Seriously SE should have gotten on the ball about fixing that from mid 2.0 -> 3.0.

    As it stands the App is subpar when compared to its competitive cousin WoW which released separate apps to serve the same purpose but for free, with the only obvious prerequisite being you had the expansion and an active account at the time. With them shutting it down and planning to rebuild as a general non-expansion exclusive app I can't help but feel they've alreayd knocked FFXIV out of the park solely because they have an infrastructure that works going off their old Apps and they're free. Whats even more insulting is when a Free2Play game has a Free Companion App that allows you to do anything relevant in its game, outside of the obvious gameplay, without charging you a dime when its F2P status has more than enough incentive to charge you for said app or at the very least paywall some features.

    For Reference Here is Said F2P Game (Warframe): https://imgur.com/a/FCV7iLr

    This is all free, this all works and doesnt need people to share an app to even talk. Foundry access is unlimited as long as you obviously have the resources to craft said items and everything else helps keep track of whats up to date with the game from Events and in-game alerts. It's there to supplement the experience not gouge you out for more cash. I honestly don't know how the community can justify it when others have done it for free and much better on top of that. We should be asking for better quality and overall less paywalls. We pay a god damn subscription for god's sake and on top of that if spamming the marketboard creates a lot of stress on the servers maybe its time the devs actually took the time to see why something like that even causes stress in the first place? It always seems to lead back to their band-aids to make systems work that they never seem to go back to and fix.

    The emote is ok I guess, bit silly but hey its Fantasy.
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    Last edited by Noodle_Trinidad; 09-06-2018 at 04:36 PM.

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    Luna-M's Avatar
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    Warrior Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by Voltyblast View Post
    Not to burst your bubble, but that was the same thing when they introduced the mogshop and people said: "if you don't like the stuff, don't buy them!". And a few years later look at the situation of the cash shop...

    Bottom line, we might not like it NOW, but in a few years, they might add additional unlocks that will make us wanna buy them...I mean it did happen with the cash shop, why not with the app?
    The argument still stands, issue with mogstation is that people don't follow that argument and keep buying stuff so of course SE add more. And we keep asking them to add more too. We dug our own grave in that regard.
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    Last edited by Luna-M; 09-06-2018 at 05:46 PM.

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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Lineage Razor
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SigmaOZ View Post
    2 Retainers ($4) > 1 Retainer + Extra Saddlebag ($5)
    Well, it does offer a bit more than that: If you're already sitting at the maximum of six paid retainers, the premium service will let you go one more BEYOND the max. I have little doubt that there are folks out there with a full set of retainers and are STILL struggling to find inventory space.

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltyblast View Post
    Not to burst your bubble, but that was the same thing when they introduced the mogshop and people said: "if you don't like the stuff, don't buy them!". And a few years later look at the situation of the cash shop...
    What are you referring to, specifically? The cash shop hasn't changed a bit, as far as I can tell. It was all glamour then, and it's all glamour now. I doubt that many of the folks who were saying, "It's glamour; it's fine to sell it for cash" then are singing a different tune, now.
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