FF14 Companion app Premium Service

[SenorPatty]

I'm only making this topic as I'm seeing that it's listed date is today on the launch browser (I guess they updated information/workability? Idk). The highlight is this tidbit taken from the FAQ page: https://companion-app.finalfantasyxi...ice-plans.html

Q. What does the premium service plan offer?
A. The premium plan offers a range of additional features.
Please note that the benefits will only become apparent once your in-game character is able to hire retainers, so please unlock that feature in FFXIV before considering upgrading to the premium plan.

PREMIUM

Use an extra chocobo saddlebag in-game, for a total of 140 saddlebag slots.
Manage chocobo saddlebag items.
Hire an extra retainer in-game for no additional cost.
Manage retainer items.
Exchange items between retainers.
Receive twice the kupo nuts per day and carry a maximum of ten at a time.
Premium plan features may be used by all characters on the same service account.


My reaction: And so...it begins...

[Final-Fantasy]

Pay to Win, enabled!

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Its not even p2w...

more like, pay for convenience, and its still not even that great. I'm personally not bothering with the premium version, i dont even use the kupo nuts i get with the free one.

I dont need the extra saddlebag space or retainer at the moment anyway.

[SenorPatty]

Now introducing The Ultra Companion App (5 years from now)

Premium

-Double tomestone space
-Triple inventory space
-Gain access to extra presets in Character Creation
-Enable Account-Wide features on all past purchases
-Gain one more additional loot from any dgn and raids
-Quadruple the amount of Kupo nuts you can hold! (OMG, that's so amazing)
-Access to the Viera race
-Triple your MGP gain
-"Limitations" and "Server Stress" mysteriously disappears (woooo)
-Gender restrictions on gear is now removed
-You can select pieces of an outfit from the mogstation to buy individually (We could've done that 5 years ago but SERVER STRESS!!)
-Overmeld your gear...by not eight, not nine but TEN SLOTS (sugoi)
-Glamour storage can now hold 1000 pieces of gear....PER SLOT



Man, 2023 is gonna be AWESOME

[LauraAdalena]

Now introducing The Ultra Companion App (5 years from now)

Premium

-Double tomestone space
-Triple inventory space
-Gain access to extra presets in Character Creation
-Enable Account-Wide features on all past purchases
-Gain one more additional loot from any dgn and raids
-Quadruple the amount of Kupo nuts you can hold! (OMG, that's so amazing)
-Access to the Viera race
-Triple your MGP gain
-"Limitations" and "Server Stress" mysteriously disappears (woooo)
-Gender restrictions on gear is now removed
-You can select pieces of an outfit from the mogstation to buy individually (We could've done that 5 years ago but SERVER STRESS!!)
-Overmeld your gear...by not eight, not nine but TEN SLOTS (sugoi)
-Glamour storage can now hold 1000 pieces of gear....PER SLOT



Man, 2023 is gonna be AWESOME

You see, you're doing it wrong. That makes it look like a STEAL at 5$. If it came out like that I'd sub for 2. One for my main character and one for my alt!

[Kirsten_Rev]

Now introducing The Ultra Companion App (5 years from now)

Premium

-Double tomestone space
-Triple inventory space
-Gain access to extra presets in Character Creation
-Enable Account-Wide features on all past purchases
-Gain one more additional loot from any dgn and raids
-Quadruple the amount of Kupo nuts you can hold! (OMG, that's so amazing)
-Access to the Viera race
-Triple your MGP gain
-"Limitations" and "Server Stress" mysteriously disappears (woooo)
-Gender restrictions on gear is now removed
-You can select pieces of an outfit from the mogstation to buy individually (We could've done that 5 years ago but SERVER STRESS!!)
-Overmeld your gear...by not eight, not nine but TEN SLOTS (sugoi)
-Glamour storage can now hold 1000 pieces of gear....PER SLOT



Man, 2023 is gonna be AWESOME

Let's not forget this would be coupled with a Live Letter a month or so earlier discussing all the various server limitations preventing SE from offering said features to everyone.

So far as I'm concerned, the app is a shameless cash grab. It's not especially game-breaking, but it is beneath the dignity that SE used to have as an organization. Alongside other shameless cash grabs, like their meddling with Deus Ex: Mankind Divided or their decision to release Rise of the Tomb Raider as a timed Xbox exclusive, it simply makes me less likely to buy future SE products. It's the cost of doing business in such a grabby fashion, but I'm sure they know that.

Edit / Aside: It's worth keeping in mind for people on both sides of the aisle that whether or not something constitutes 'P2W' is a subjective sort of thing. Personally, I view the Mog Station as P2W, because I view Glamours and Mounts as key rewards in FFXIV. Others don't. That's fine - P2W is in the eye of the beholder.

That being said, even if someone doesn't view the app or Mog Station or whatever as P2W, it should be concerning that significant numbers of others clearly do. I personally am less likely to support SE and FFXIV because of the optional paid features and content. It's not strong enough for me to stop playing right now, but it'll be a significant factor when I eventually do. I've had other friends quit over it. Seeing so many on the forums laugh off my opinions tends to push me closer to the point of quitting for good, as it lends evidence to the fact that I'm not an intended customer for FFXIV.

Now I can't speak for other forum-goers, but I'm guessing I'm not alone in feeling this way. It's risky for SE to continue disregarding our collective opinions. There's a tipping point somewhere, a point at which people will start leaving for less-monetized MMOs. I don't know where it is, but SE keeps inching closer. When, and if, that point is reached, it'll be a negative outcome for all players of FFXIV - regardless of whether or not they're OK with things like the app or Mog Station.

[polyphonica]

Now I can't speak for other forum-goers, but I'm guessing I'm not alone in feeling this way. It's risky for SE to continue disregarding our collective opinions. There's a tipping point somewhere, a point at which people will start leaving for less-monetized MMOs. I don't know where it is, but SE keeps inching closer. When, and if, that point is reached, it'll be a negative outcome for all players of FFXIV - regardless of whether or not they're OK with things like the app or Mog Station.

In fairness, they'll be the first to know when that happens, since all these financial decisions are made by looking at metrics. (They keep adding these options because people keep buying it.) They also do pretty extensive exit surveys and have tons of feedback from many sources so that, when the trends start pointing in a certain direction, it should not be hard to figure out why. But I suspect the solution they arrive at will not be to just suddenly roll back the MogStation or the premium app. Rather, I suspect they'll reconsider the underlying subscription model for the game. The thing that riles people up the most about all this monetization is that they're paying a subscription, so the easy fix is just to make it so that you don't have to pay a subscription to play the game. That will also help push their player numbers up, exposing more people to up-sells and side-monetization. I suspect their own version of "WoW Tokens" might be the next step down this road.

[Kirsten_Rev]

In fairness, they'll be the first to know when that happens, since all these financial decisions are made by looking at metrics. (They keep adding these options because people keep buying it.) They also do pretty extensive exit surveys and have tons of feedback from many sources so that, when the trends start pointing in a certain direction, it should not be hard to figure out why. But I suspect the solution they arrive at will not be to just suddenly roll back the MogStation or the premium app. Rather, I suspect they'll reconsider the underlying subscription model for the game. The thing that riles people up the most about all this monetization is that they're paying a subscription, so the easy fix is just to make it so that you don't have to pay a subscription to play the game. That will also help push their player numbers up, exposing more people to up-sells and side-monetization. I suspect their own version of "WoW Tokens" might be the next step down this road.

Quite possible, but I wouldn't be quite so confident in their ability to spot trouble before it happens - particularly if the P2W aspect is, like for me, more of a contributing factor than the primary reason for leaving. After all, the downside of obtaining most of your information from exit surveys is that the player has already exited - if and when a wave happens, it will quite likely be too late to initiate a rapid policy change to retain those players.

I'd also argue that the complete and utter lack of active-player surveys demonstrates they can't be paying too much attention. Case in point, unofficial censuses, along with SE's most recently quarterly financials, suggest strongly that Stormblood is not aging nearly as well as ARR or Heavensward did. The likely culprit is the format of FFXIV's content cycle and relative lack of truly fresh content, a topic which routinely generates long feedback threads here on the OF. Yet, I don't see any indication that SE is changing course. No surveys. No feedback sought. Eureka Pagos even appears to be a doubling-down of sorts, with Yoshi-P essentially saying in his recent Gamescom interview that players should suck it up. It appears to me that SE is ignoring a growing problem here, one that risks blowing up spectacularly in the near future if 5.0 appears certain to continue down the current path.

Finally, even assuming SE can see this coming, it's quite likely a lot of the people who support the Mog Station, app, etc. - people who do not view these as P2W features - nonetheless don't want to see FFXIV go F2P. SE could jump out of the frying pan and into the fire if it's not careful, and people who support the current monetization model might find their own personal red lines are tomorrow's slippery slope. Worth keeping in mind, anyway.

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All that said, I don't want to diminish your point. It is a fair one to make, and it's well taken. But personally, I have extremely little faith in SE's ability to gather and interpret customer opinions, specifically in regards to FFXIV. Their community outreach efforts have done nothing but diminish since ARR released, and the running joke about SE not caring until the Japanese player base complains is only partly humourous.

[polyphonica]

Case in point, unofficial censuses, along with SE's most recently quarterly financials, suggest strongly that Stormblood is not aging nearly as well as ARR or Heavensward did.

At least on the quarterly financials front, they actually called out on-going FFXIV revenue as a strong point, and on Lucky Bancho's unofficial census the amount of people who cleared recent patches is actually higher than it was at an equivalent time in Heavensward, so it's not exactly a very clear picture or trend at this point. Of course, there's no doubt that there's an increasing amount of disgruntled people, as is bound to happen as a game enters its 5th year, plus we have just had a few major releases that'll compete for players (particularly NA/EU players). The monetization strategy will also be an issue for some people, but I suspect it's particularly aggravating people while they're feeling the content (and volume of content) isn't to their liking.

If the game were to go F2P, although it would upset some people who like the game precisely because it's subscription-based, it will also open up the game to many large markets, so the net impact on the player count will be a gain. That said, I'm not saying that I personally want it to go that way, as I've definitely seen (as many of us have) the ways F2P can warp a game. But, at the end of the day, Square Enix isn't going to accept a loss in revenue based on a belief that it'll make people happier; the decisions will be based on the numbers, for better or worse.

[Emstidor]

As someone who has no intention of using the premium service (and even barely uses the app, period) I’m glad Kupo nuts serve as a limiter to prevent people from sitting on the app and endlessly undercutting me every ten minutes.