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    Lubu_Mykono's Avatar
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    Lubu Mykono
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kooper16 View Post
    It's been more than a month since the last post about this topic so I'm bringing this up here again.
    I'd love to see the old feast rewards somehow available again. I don't care how but locking desirable items behind unpopular content AND making it exclusive to a small amount of players for a specific time is ridiculous.
    To describe what I mean with unpopular: Ignoring the fact that queuetimes take ages and that the general opinion on it is "It's trash", "They should stop wasting their resources on it" and "They should delete it", the dedicated PVP-players admit it themselves everytime someone requests alternative methods for feast rewards. The most popular argument I read is "Then people wouldn't play ranked anymore" or even "they wouldn't play pvp anymore" (if you could get it outside of pvp). What I read here is "This is not fun and if I don't get cool stuff, I won't play it". The purpuse of a PVP mode should be fun and entertainment but it seems the item rewards are the sole reason for people to do PVP. I personally really enjoy the PVE content a lot and help out training groups daily while still raiding with my own static even though we cleared everything already. Why? Because it's fun. I don't get any rewards from it most of the time but I still do it. I can't understand why people have to defend this system if it forces themselves to do something they dislike all the time.
    Another thing that bothers me on top of it is that they even make those rewards exclusive in the first place while PVE rewards (which is the obvious focus of the game) stay obtainable all the time. It even gets easier the older it gets. Drop rates of old mounts got increased. Coil savage (which only gave titles) can now be done unsyched. I can't wait for uwu and ucob unsyched on the next expansion (which really doesn't sound unrealistic) /s.

    If there is nothing else that can be used as ranked rewards then go ahead and make them exlusive for a while so everyone who gets them can at least show of how they spend a lot of time with something they don't enjoy but don't make it impossible for the majority of the playerbase.
    why though?? it makes doing PvP not worth doing at all then?
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    Usually I wouldn't want those exclusive rewards be available at a later date, but the fact that people just win-trade for a fair amount of them leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
    I really don't like it how for some of the mounts, only the cheats have it.

    There was cheating even in solo-queue in season 1 and 2. Me and my pvp fc ran into a fair few speed hackers. Like people running faster than someone sprinting, with heavy affects doing nothing to slow them down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    only the cheats have it.

    There was cheating even in solo-queue in season 1 and 2. Me and my pvp fc ran into a fair few speed hackers
    How can 1 guy out of 100 be "only the cheats have it"? Your wording is off and people here sometimes don't know it better (because it is some time ago now).
    And are you sure you mean feast and not frontline? Because playing with your PvP fc sounds a lot like playing frontline with them.

    Season 1 and 2 had probably the least issues with boosters/cheater/wintrader, competition was high, and lots of good players played it. The mode was too new for something like that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lubu_Mykono View Post
    why though?? it makes doing PvP not worth doing at all then?
    idk dude, if there is a mode you don't like, you don't have to play it only because there are rewards that are exclusive. You can just go on with your life and ignore pvp. If you "hate" PvP in this game, why bother about the rewards?
    Oh, so you actually like the rewards from it? But you don't want to work for them? Well OP is asking for a way, that makes them obtainable in a "grindy" way, so you would be spending even more time in PvP after all? It is pretty contradicting don't you think?..
    And making formerly exclusive items available on mogstation instead of in the game again, would send a very bad signal. Legacy players don't want to see their exclusive mounts on mogstation either I guess.
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    Last edited by Commander_Justitia; 09-04-2018 at 03:45 PM.

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    Season 1 had only one big case of cheating in the top 10 (at least on primal), that person still wear his beta wolf title with pride
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    There were (and still are) a good number of hackers in Feast. And some of them have been caught and put on display in Twitch and Youtube. I'm not linking to them because of Forum rules, but you can see one guy up on the walls of the arena, raining down fireballs and no one can reach him. Another sprints constantly with no cooldown. And that says nothing of the exploit where people used Palace of the Dead pomanders in Feast and became Manticores and beat the snot out of their rivals. Were they ever punished or do they still retain their ranked rewards?

    (As a side note, it would be really cool to have a pvp mode where there were transformation pomanders!)
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    "We want bunny suits for guys!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Ishgard housing!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Viera!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Cloud's motorcycle!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Blue Mage!"-- OK! ✅
    "We want the ability to earn past Feast rewards!" - HAHA no that's sacred.

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    I would prefer they scrap feast and make a different kind of competitive pvp mode that is more fun whilst still having the reward system as is with top 100. Feast in its current state isn't the most enjoyable thing in the world however there was a time where It was a lot of fun. Moving on to the rewards, gonna say the same thing others and I always say, just get top 100 its pretty damn fricking easy now. I do want them to add more rewards for wolf collars perhaps glow versions of the shop armour we see from the vendors or even upgraded garo type armour but all in all u cant treat this the same way as PvE's reward system as you're just comparing apples to oranges, It's not how things work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    How can 1 guy out of 100 be "only the cheats have it"? Your wording is off and people here sometimes don't know it better (because it is some time ago now).
    And are you sure you mean feast and not frontline? Because playing with your PvP fc sounds a lot like playing frontline with them.

    Season 1 and 2 had probably the least issues with boosters/cheater/wintrader, competition was high, and lots of good players played it. The mode was too new for something like that.
    First of all, when I said some mounts I meant the 4v4 partied feast. Each person in the party counts towards the rankings separately so if you have 1 group wintrading, that's 4 top 10 spots taken. Two groups? That's 8 spots taken.
    Wintrading was not new even before the feast came out, as people wintraded in the wolves den since it came out for the titles.

    Oh, and you could play with your fc in partied feast (bring along 3 of your FC mates, it's pretty fun, if more than 3 wanted to play with you, you would take turns or make a 2nd group) and your fc can also all queue for solo queue separately, as mine did in 1v1 when the feast popped because we were all excited about it. I indeed know the difference between frontlines and the feast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    First of all, when I said some mounts I meant the 4v4 partied feast. Each person in the party counts towards the rankings separately so if you have 1 group wintrading, that's 4 top 10 spots taken. Two groups? That's 8 spots taken.
    Wintrading was not new even before the feast came out, as people wintraded in the wolves den since it came out for the titles.

    Oh, and you could play with your fc in partied feast (bring along 3 of your FC mates, it's pretty fun, if more than 3 wanted to play with you, you would take turns or make a 2nd group) and your fc can also all queue for solo queue separately, as mine did in 1v1 when the feast popped because we were all excited about it. I indeed know the difference between frontlines and the feast.
    Well, In LP S1 and S2 LP I can agree that it had some wintrading issues partly because it was pretty dead in general after the beginning hype however, wintrading in general isn't as bad as people like to make it out to be, It happens quite rarely - the community shuns those who cheat, boost, hack and try to report and get the GMs to do something about it. Doesn't mean "only the cheaters have it" but I can understand when you see one of these people doing these things it leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

    The only thing that irritates me is that you may have that one dude who is a repeat offender who doesn't get banned and also the "GMs cant take outside evidence" when things like clips and recordings are blatant evidence. With that said, High majority are legit, but you may get that one rotten apple. This shouldn't discredit those who work for it legitimately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    You can tie/add rewards to a normal mode and not make it competitive. Competitive means ladders, tiers and elo. Things at which people have repeatedly demonstrated uncapable to deal with while behaving like civilized human beings.
    You're completely missing the point, if you add top 100 rewards to the unranked queue all that means is that now we have 2 seperates queues for no reason, doesnt keep the chill mood of it being unranked and anymore better than ranked. It morphs into ranked version 2 do you not see? Achievement rewards was the best for this when we had 8v8.

    Why would I need to lie? lol... yes you have I've played with you enough in-game to know and I'l tell you this, things like practicing whm randomly in plat queues is going to make people angry because healer is the most important job and for someone to test it out is basically selfish and throwing so thats on you, people lose rank cos of you so what do u expect? If you get a diamond player who gets a plat healer and gets 600d in like a minute because he doesnt know his job at all and doesnt practice beforehand who isn't going to be mad at that?

    Perhaps at first you didn't do those things you mention but I remember, I probably have some footage of it as well since I record a lot of my matches, past and now but lets keep pretending shall we? Victimization is silly, nobody is going to be toxic for no reason and especially nobody is gonna contact you after for no reason neither, come on now.

    Either way you act like you've never let that salt go in years. Let it go,your exaggeration is extreme dude and at the end of the day I personally havent had any toxicity in what, probably a year +. Majority of players who contact players talk it out civilly unless you're one of those players who arent open to help or advice. I'm not saying A-holes dont exist but lets be realistic. I'd like to also clarifify that ignore marks general mean you are doing something really bad thats weighing down the team, if you or someone gets offended by such a simple mark then seriously, stay away from competitive modes or games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiche View Post
    You're completely missing the point, if you add top 100 rewards to the unranked queue all that means is that now we have 2 seperates queues for no reason, doesnt keep the chill mood of it being unranked and anymore better than ranked. It morphs into ranked version 2 do you not see?
    I think you are exaggerating. Me (and surely enough other people who do the Frontline daily) still need victories for our mount achivements. When I lose, I just try again because there is nothing I effectivly lose. Ranked on the other hand looks completly different. Ranked is supposed to, well, rank the player. If you want to show how good you are and if you want trophies, you should play ranked. A rank and trophies are tied to you winning some kind of competition. Glamour and mounts on the other hand are not!
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