Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
..you can do that now. A lot of this is a player issue. There's nothing stopping people from taking it slowly, duoing or light partying it, taking breaks in the middle of the grind to chat. You mention parsers, but...again thats a player issue. The game issues exist and revolve around them trying to nerf the fate train too much, then underreacting by just boosting the fate train without fixing the issues. But they can't be blamed if players make it also a joyless slog on their end. The content isn't really going anywheres that you need to hardcore grind it to get everything in two weeks to a month.
Except you fall behind, and in content like Pagos that will make the task exceptionally harder since it's extremely un-solo friendly. FATEs scale to your level whereas Pagos doesn't since our Magia board doesn't increase in this iteration. Not to mention, Yokai never loses its value as it's only an objective for collectors. The relic used to be a decent alternative for casual players or people wanting to play alt jobs. Now it's trash come two weeks from today. At least from a stat perspective.

And it isn't the players making it a "joyless slog." They're simply being efficient because a good number don't even want to be there. Pagos is simply designed to be a joyless slog.