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    I understand the frustration, I do. If I landed in this trial in roulette, I would probably leave it. But, nerfing it is not the answer, because the difficulty is not the problem.

    The problem is the players, so the solution needs to be on them. There needs to be more in-game to elevate players from window-licker status to basic competency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonseth07 View Post
    I understand the frustration, I do. If I landed in this trial in roulette, I would probably leave it. But, nerfing it is not the answer, because the difficulty is not the problem.
    Ive seen this mentality before, and i never understood it. Over the years there have been certain fights that i dreaded getting in a roulette, but the fun of the roulette(at least for me) is not knowing what challenge awaits. Will today be easy(cape westwind), hard(susano is the one i see the most fails on) or something in the middle? If i run into a group that is struggling i do my best to explain and try to lead by example. If i que when i have a limited amount of time to play i try hard to get that clear and give a little extra if i can(ive pushed back going to sleep and meals, but not leaving for work). But leaving is absolutely the last resort.

    Side note/change of subject: Is my experience shared by anyone else? Susano and Tsuko have the highest wipe rate right now in trials? In HW the worst was Bis, then Nidhogg. And i didnt play before HW launched, so no personal experience with the world of ARR only - though Chrysalis is my least favorite trial of all(poorly timed fight with 3 seperate spots where you have to stop attacking him and do something else, the meteor phase can still wipe an unprepared party even though its a joke if you do the strat right, and the whole thing takes an annoyingly long time)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frizze View Post
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    In regards to leaving, things like this can bring out a very not-fun side of me, especially when somebody is full-on suffering from Repeated Identical Failure Syndrome. In the past, I have been VERY toxic to people when they are the cause of group failure. I try to hold myself to a very high standard for fight mechanics, and I don't take it well when other people don't seem to do the same.

    It's better for everyone if I just avoid those situations nowadays. I don't have the temperament to deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonseth07 View Post
    In regards to leaving, things like this can bring out a very not-fun side of me
    As is usually the case, we're probly just wired a little differently. Im not going to say i enjoy banging my head against the wall of the ______ who forgets to do _______ every pull, but it takes kinda a lot(usually) to get to me. At first it would be a challenge to see if i could guide these people through, then a challenge to see if i could put up with it long enough for something to finally click(or them to give up, or the party to fall apart). At some point id try to find a funny/tragic/interesting angle that i could turn into a good post for the horror stories thread.

    One thing we seem to have in common though, i also hold myself to a high standard for mechanics. If im half asleep and not performing to my ability id be much more apt to leave early so the group could get someone better focused(and so i can get the rest i clearly need).
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