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    Derio's Avatar
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I am lvl 23 and starting is very hard. I already have a 370 weapon. Pagos is very boring though. Daily I look to see if there are any low level groups in PF, but for the most part there are not.


    I got fed up and am just going to get the tomestone weapon and wait until Pagos gets nerfed into the dirt and go back and get the weapon for glamour. Honestly SB has rubbed me the wrong way from story, to spreading out content to the relic being put behind this crap piece of content they call Eureka.

    Its possible to start Pagos. But its not fun and it will take a considerable amount of time, time that could be spent elsewhere or on another game.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Possible? Yes. Efficient, no. Good luck doing your challenge log each week and that's it.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Zanelle Solainteau
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    If someone really wants to delve into it, they can do much more than just challenge log. As long as you know to focus light, when you hit ele 25, the relic grind will go much quicker. Start a PF for your level at 25+. You will likely still hit ele 35 and have way more than 500 crystals before finishing your light. I cannot speak to how it looks if you focus hitting ele 35, but maybe Vaer can give you an idea.

    You can ride the train, if there is one. However, things will take much longer, and you will have to grind light anyway. You will also be removing light grinding locations away from yourself, since you out-leveled them. The only advantages to the train exp push are logistical. For some people, they are the advantages that they feel they need. So that depends on the person.
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    Marcellus Cassius
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    Hyperion
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ToniRomo View Post
    I decided to check it out after reading the train is back. I am level 20. When I enter and ask for a group no one invites. No one joins if I try to make one. It seems like everyone is lv30+ at this point.

    If a NM pops it is always too far away for me to make it in time since I don't have a mount and the map is so big. Everything hits really hard so soloing isn't viable.

    Over the last few days I tried to give the content a chance, but ended up logging out after 20 minutes and playing another game.
    I'm in the same boat, I can't join the NM train because once it dies everyone runs away to the next spot in a manner that I can't match since they have mounts or just tele via the crystal. I can't even kill the first mob that I come across past the gate and no luck getting enough people my level to do it, I will try again during the weekend but it felt like the worst part of xi just sitting there shouting for an hour. Also, in xi at least we had sneak and invis, the amount of mobs packed together in this map is a bit much.
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    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Maximum Powerful
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    go into anemos and complete your challenge logs there. you'll get to 22-23 very easily. that should help you get around the first available part of the map. few more nms and you'll get to 25-26. then next week's challenge logs will get you 27-28. and then you're screwed because 4.4 drops and everyone will be doing that for however long it takes them to do that (i'd say a month). then people will trickle back into Pagos.
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    Marcellus Cassius
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    Hyperion
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Yeah thats probably the best option, I found the nm train still alive and well in anemos to my surprise.
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    Gridania
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    Aileen Pureheart
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Anemos is doing fantastic while Pagos is having trouble.

    Apparently, if we knew how, it’s possible to spawn the NMs just as fast as Anemos but we have yet to figure out the trick give spawning each one. The Devs wanted us to try things out and work as a community to figure out how to unlock each one but they are now starting to think that they may have made it too hard to discover.

    Hopefully they will give us some hints soon, otherwise, Pagos is going to be as dead as HoH is during prime time.

    The other thing they need to do is move all the sleeping dragons into a farmable spot and allow for faster and safer movement around the map. There is enough danger in the zone as it is, we don’t need more one shot mechanics.

    Ultimately, they need to give up on making it hard and let us have fun. Ride the train and get all the relics you want!
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    Toni Romo
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    Ultros
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    Viper Lv 100
    I managed to find a train group this afternoon. I spent awhile trying to reach them and died multiple times. By the time I got close something else spawned and everyone ran back off in another direction. I ended up just leaving in frustration. This just isn't a good way to spend my free time. I used to like making relics a lot
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    AlexanderThorolund's Avatar
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    Eros Crux
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    Louisoix
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    Machinist Lv 70
    I work full time and when I tried Pagos when it launched I couldn’t get into it like I did with Anemos. I recently started again after the fate exp changes. I won’t lie. 20 to 30 are a nightmare and you will struggle and scream in frustration at missing fates but if you can preserve after level 30 it gets a lot easier and more fun. I also get very limited time to play like the OP but levelling is not the problem with Pagos it’s the light farm at level 34/35, it’s soul destroying lol
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    Drako Redwyne
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Hmmm there are a few of them old MMo's and your right hence it's considered OPTIONAL content. I mean people who like cash shops and simple things really kill a good game. This has been nerfed sooo much only reason I play it is for lore. Most people actually enjoy the lore. Also keep in mind, relics history and how they work. IT"S AN OPTIONAL GRIND. Game is too easy as it is.
    Please quit say Pagos is optional. If by that logic all. Content is optional out side of MSQ. It’s not optional by any means. Ppl must do it to have any chance or getting a relic. Bc let’s face it in 1-2 months no one will ever go back. I haven’t the slightest idea on how SE is going to nerfthis content later.
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