Is it possible to start Pagos now?

[ToniRomo]

I decided to check it out after reading the train is back. I am level 20. When I enter and ask for a group no one invites. No one joins if I try to make one. It seems like everyone is lv30+ at this point.

If a NM pops it is always too far away for me to make it in time since I don't have a mount and the map is so big. Everything hits really hard so soloing isn't viable.

Over the last few days I tried to give the content a chance, but ended up logging out after 20 minutes and playing another game.

[Hyperia]

To be honest, I am slowly giving up on Pagos. I’m 27 in there and with only 2 hours of playtime a night, I just cant spend it in all in Pagos because of the horribly long and slow ramp up. I need to do other things besides Pagos so that only gives me, at best two nights a week to try. Between those two night, I *may* get the challenge log done.

I agree with you that what they call the train is not the train from Anemos, it’s jist a bunch of level 30+ people who are willing to wait an hour for something to spawn and then burn it down in less than a minute.

With patch 4.4 only two weeks away, I am going to let Pagos and the relic probably go unless something major is done.

If your not 30+ by now, Pagos is going to be hurtfully hard at this point. Best of luck

[EmeraldAres]

After finishing with Pagos and returning to the main game, I was suddenly having a lot more fun. I suspect I'm not alone if the conditions you're describing are becoming the norm.

[Vaer]

Yes, I just leveled to 35 a couple days ago from 20. It was a slog though. Before level 30, NMs give a large amount of EXP, so those levels go by quick. Once you get to 30+ and get the crystal by Arthro it gets less annoying.

My suggestion to fencesitters if they really don't want to do it, do the challenge log every week so if they release Logos and it has something cool that you want you aren't still level 20 and have to grind two zones. By the time they release Logos you should be near max level even if you just do the log every week. The Log scales and gives about a level and a bit even if you just go back to Anemos and kill easy stuff.

Check PF for chain groups if you want to level using those. Most of the players in there are now 35 so finding a group while inside is tough. Trains are hit and miss - depends how lazy the instance is. Sometimes no one is doing anything at all, other times there are a lot of people. If you want to train do it around prime time EST/PST on NA servers. Weekends are good around afternoon and later. As far as I could tell, early morning is usually dead except light farm groups.

[OurMom]

I really wish they would stop adding leveling systems to side content.

It doesn't make any sense and it just makes things even more annoying. It's like they don't know how to design content without either taking away abilities, gear, levels, or all three.

[ManuelBravo]

I really wish they would stop adding leveling systems to side content.

It doesn't make any sense and it just makes things even more annoying. It's like they don't know how to design content without either taking away abilities, gear, levels, or all three.

What are you talking about it makes total sense based on the story line. It can be a bit of hassle, welcome to MMO's, yes, however gives us something to do for those who are into relics and have maxed everything else -.- besides it's not that hard, simple mechanics, gear and abilities are not taking away they just added a elemental weakness and defense wheel. They took away fate trains why? do to people complaining it was not fair -.-. Challenge books was updated and duo in is a nice alternative to quick xp while you wait for Fates. To some is annoying, normally do to lack of common sense that that in the old days there was an xp penalty for most MMO's. Hell some still have it. the game is too easy as it is anyways-.-/. Besides people can duo , can get decent xp. and just people for fates then others leave simple.

[OurMom]

What are you talking about it makes total sense based on the story line. It can be a bit of hassle, welcome to MMO's, yes, however gives us something to do for those who are into relics and have maxed everything else -.- besides it's not that hard, simple mechanics, gear and abilities are not taking away they just added a elemental weakness and defense wheel. They took away fate trains why? do to people complaining it was not fair -.-. Challenge books was updated and duo in is a nice alternative to quick xp while you wait for Fates. To some is annoying, normally do to lack of common sense that that in the old days there was an xp penalty for most MMO's. Hell some still have it. the game is too easy as it is anyways-.-/. Besides people can duo , can get decent xp. and just people for fates then others leave simple.

A lot of people don't care about the story dude, also this isn't a "welcome to mmos" type thing. No other mmo on the market constantly takes away your progression with level syncs, ilvl syncs, and constantly adding leveling to side content. Because other mmos know how to make lasting difficult content without taking away your progression.

Eureka could've still been tied to the relics and made challenging/lasting without the whole leveling thing all over again.

[ManuelBravo]

A lot of people don't care about the story dude, also this isn't a "welcome to mmos" type thing. No other mmo on the market constantly takes away your progression with level syncs, ilvl syncs, and constantly adding leveling to side content. Because other mmos know how to make lasting difficult content without taking away your progression.

Eureka could've still been tied to the relics and made challenging/lasting without the whole leveling thing all over again.

Hmmm there are a few of them old MMo's and your right hence it's considered OPTIONAL content. I mean people who like cash shops and simple things really kill a good game. This has been nerfed sooo much only reason I play it is for lore. Most people actually enjoy the lore. Also keep in mind, relics history and how they work. IT"S AN OPTIONAL GRIND. Game is too easy as it is.

[OurMom]

Hmmm there are a few of them old MMo's and your right hence it's considered OPTIONAL content. I mean people who like cash shops and simple things really kill a good game. This has been nerfed sooo much only reason I play it is for lore. Most people actually enjoy the lore. Also keep in mind, relics history and how they work. IT"S AN OPTIONAL GRIND. Game is too easy as it is.

No one said it's forced nor that it's hard, I'm not sure why you're focusing on that. Besides even if Eureka is optional, that has nothing to do with a good chunk of content doing the same.

My sole and only point is, there was really no need for them to tie another leveling system to it. Especially since there's a lot of people that are trying to level, missed the hype train and can't get a leveling group. Again, it's like they can't design challenging content without taking away our levels, gear, or both.

[ElazulHP]

If you're starting now and no life it you should have enough time to get a single relic by the time 4.4 drops. If that doesn't sound appealing to you i'd honestly just say forget it and wait until Pagos gets nerfed into the ground.