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    Charmed NPC's Feature Request for CNJ

    I would love to have the ability to "charm" NPC's in the play area. They could just do their usual attacks/spells and only certain NPC's could be charmed (nature based). I think this would fit very well into the lore of the shroud and being connected to nature.

    Am i Crazy? Used to do this in other older mmo's and i miss it. They would just be temporary and if you forgot to keep them charmed they would go back to default npc status. This was a lot of fun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JK-Vulcan View Post
    I would love to have the ability to "charm" NPC's in the play area. They could just do their usual attacks/spells and only certain NPC's could be charmed (nature based). I think this would fit very well into the lore of the shroud and being connected to nature.

    Am i Crazy? Used to do this in other older mmo's and i miss it. They would just be temporary and if you forgot to keep them charmed they would go back to default npc status. This was a lot of fun!
    Lorewise as conjurer you are more like a translater to serve the spirites of the nature and have permision to use their aether, not like you would have any power at your own. They just allow you to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion88 View Post
    Lorewise as conjurer you are more like a translater to serve the spirites of the nature and have permision to use their aether, not like you would have any power at your own. They just allow you to do so.
    This is true and seems logical like the sylph's would be willing to lend aid to you. It's not a magical trick on them. It is communication and agreement in helping you out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JK-Vulcan View Post
    This is true and seems logical like the sylph's would be willing to lend aid to you. It's not a magical trick on them. It is communication and agreement in helping you out.
    Sorry, no, charming is dancer style, not Conjurer or White Mage.
    If you bist want a battle companion, there is a level 30 quest in Camp Tranquil in the South Shroud, which allows your Chocobo to be called to your side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion88 View Post
    Sorry, no, charming is dancer style, not Conjurer or White Mage.
    If you bist want a battle companion, there is a level 30 quest in Camp Tranquil in the South Shroud, which allows your Chocobo to be called to your side.
    Your opinion is noted and yeah we know about chocobos as a companion. This is not a companion although more companion options would also be cool.
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    Pls no this isnt octopath traveler
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    To me this just sounds like SCH with a dps pet... which is SMN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    To me this just sounds like SCH with a dps pet... which is SMN.
    Yeah i can see that. However this is not a summon ability. This is a charm ability where as you charm an npc creature in the field and it becomes your ally for a period of 180 seconds or until it dies. It would cast level equivalent spells that are already in it's repertoire. We do share some similarities with the other magic classes already. The purpose would be to assist in DPS or other buffs/debuffs outside a white mages ability.

    It's tedious sometimes and this would add some fun and help out with dps. As far as groups and raids, don't think this would apply but doesn't really need too either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JK-Vulcan View Post
    Yeah i can see that. However this is not a summon ability. This is a charm ability where as you charm an npc creature in the field and it becomes your ally for a period of 180 seconds or until it dies.
    Lorewise this still doesn't seem to fit with conjury. Lorewise, the existing job that would fit best seems to be summoner, since the storyline is already somewhat about taming the elemental incarnations.

    But as far as mechanics... It sounds like what you're asking for is "Beastmaster." The problem with a job like that is there is very little meaningful openworld battle content in FFXIV. So it would need to be designed to take on primal fights and raid bosses and such as well. Even if you say "Well this job isn't for that", players would complain if they had trouble completing storyline primals or things like the 24-player raid on the job. And which would circle back to leaving very little in the power budget for charming.

    Lastly... for helping out with DPS, well, that's what your chocobo companion is for. Yeah, ok, choco companion's only good spec is healing. Tank and DPS specs could definitely use some buffs. But it's a lot easier to ask SE to buff something that exists than it is to ask them to introduce a completely new but niche class...
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    As far as helping with dps... I played most of the game as a WHM and I've never had any trouble with that really. You certainly put out less damage than an actual dps who knows what they're doing in those situations but when it comes to like instances story battles and stuff I don't think we need any help.

    Also thematically this is just so unrelated to CNJ and WHM. There is nothing about controlling others or making others do the work for you. You use your connection to nature to use Stone and Aero, not to brainwash innocent people and make them fight for you.

    The more I think about this the more it feels like a primal tempering people. I'm really opposed to it, I think it's the opposite of what WHM needs both thematically and gameplay-wise.
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