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  1. #21
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    I think... FF5 is the best chapter to explain "what is Final Fantasy?"

    the system, game play, theme, story, world, bgm, weapon, vehicles, monster, jobs, abilities, summons, costumes.... everything of FF5 is Final Fantasy

    so the dev team should look at FF5 and put some (or many) thing to XIV


    but the worst thing for Final Fantasy is "too much machines" do not put them to the game too much. this is one of the reason why I didn't have FF7 as my most favorite and XIII is just another VII wannabe and a machine failure


    ...., I can't speak english better than this. please forgive me if you don't understand what I said
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    Last edited by Evangela; 03-19-2011 at 10:18 AM.

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    For me, Final Fantasy is always about the story. I have been playing Final Fantasy a long time. I was hook for the very first title I played. which was the original FF for the NES. If any of you remember that one, the game play and graphics left MUCH to be desired lol. However the story for me was the catch. Over the years The story's kept me coming back for more. I have purchased whole consoles just for the chance to play a Final Fantasy title, even the computer I am typing this on was purchased with the expressed intent on playing FF XIV. OK perhaps I'm a bit of a nut >.>;... Anyways My point is, I have always loved the way Final Fantasy could immerse me in its vast story line. As for FF XIV, it remains to be seen for me, but I do have faith that it will come through because Final Fantasy has never let me down... except FFX2... that was just kinda weird for me... But I still played it to the end! xD
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    For me it was a story that kept you wanting to play. I haven't played all the FF games, but I remember grabbing VII and losing a week or so of my life to that game from the moment I started playing. It just grabbed me that hard and didn't let go.

    My next FF was XI, and while that was different, since it was an MMO; and my first MMO at that. I'd have to say the sense of feeling like I am in a real world, with danger lurking around the corner, and pretty harsh consequences when I screwed up, is what got me hooked. That was within the first 15 levels of starting. Then I got into my first party, and was just blown away by cooperative MMO play. Then I got into the XI storyline...

    Some of that I know I will never experience again (the new to MMO stuff)... and I'm glad that I experienced those in FFXI. The rest, I'd love to experience in XIV.

    Unfortunately, XIV has none of this for me. It looks like a Final Fantasy game, but it doesn't feel like a Final Fantasy game.
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    I like each game for different reasons really. 6 had a nice story and a huge cast, 7 had a rather serious tone throughout even if the dialog was corny at times and the materia system was fun to play with, 12 had a lot of extra things to do and a fairly memorable cast (except for van who really took a back seat to everyone else), tactics had awesome mechanics (but the story had so much stuff going on it was a little difficult to follow)(also the zodiac system was convoluted and held a lot of characters back).

    and all of them had fairly impressive visuals at the time and charming art styles

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    simple character design
    I disagree

    Final fantasy characters have typically been highly decorated and accessorized from head to toe.
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    Final fantasy characters have typically been highly decorated and accessorized from head to toe.
    As simple as the sprites were in the first couple of Final Fantasy games this is absolutely true. Even then, if you look at Amano's character designs you can tell that the only reason the characters looked the way they did was because of the technical limitations at the time.

    I would actually love to see a remake of the old Final Fantasy games or even a new game with watercolor palette effects ala SFIV or Unlimited Saga and a 1:1 recreation of Amano's original designs.

    Final Fantasy, as other posters have already said, has been about the story for me. Mix in some of the running themes like Cid, airships, chocobos, moogles, and I can technically define it as a Final Fantasy game. Even if the battle system is meh, as long as the story is good enough to be involved in I'll see it through to the end.
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    Certain things come to mind when talking about what makes a game Final Fantasy.

    1) Immersive Story
    2) Character customize (Materia, Sphere Grid, Paradigm)
    3) Innovative combat
    4) FF Jobs (Knight, Blue Mage, Gambler, Black/White Mage)
    5) FF Monsters (Tonberry, Sahagins, Molboro, Bombs)
    6) Summons (Bahamut, Ifrit, Shiva, Titan)
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    Final Fantasy is a lot of things to me, and each game has different ways of achieving them, which is why I like every Final Fantasy game for different reasons. I liked FFVIII and FFX-2 for their themes of love/romance and change/closure respectively, and I love FFXII for being a huge war epic(which admittedly has way too much Star Wars going on in it), I love FFVI for being an all around complete(and amazing) package, and I love FFXIII for being an amazingly gorgeous world with epic music and a blazing fast battle system.

    All and all, Final Fantasy is an RPG series that I'm (usually)sure to enjoy, with an aesthetic that I can't say I can find anywhere else, compelling themes and characters(usually) and interesting takes on RPG combat.

    The base of what FFXIV is satisfies most of those qualities, and I'm sure that once it's allowed the time to gestate as it SHOULD have had, it'll really knock my socks off. It already far surpasses FFXI at the base level by far for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chezen View Post
    ... what do you think of, when you think of Final Fantasy? What do you expect to find when you pick up a game? What do you enjoy?
    The opposite of 13
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    Where are the moogles? They were in F11 and Kingdom Hearts if I recall. None in FF14? None?
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    "Not gone, merely marching far away."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    Certain things come to mind when talking about what makes a game Final Fantasy.

    1) Immersive Story
    2) Character customize (Materia, Sphere Grid, Paradigm)
    3) Innovative combat
    4) FF Jobs (Knight, Blue Mage, Gambler, Black/White Mage)
    5) FF Monsters (Tonberry, Sahagins, Molboro, Bombs)
    6) Summons (Bahamut, Ifrit, Shiva, Titan)
    this ^^^^
    just add Cid to that list

    Quote Originally Posted by sharky View Post
    Where are the moogles? They were in F11 and Kingdom Hearts if I recall. None in FF14? None?
    They appear in a few quest that happen in the black shroud. I remember seeing them in the Gridania main story quests and in a lancer quest.
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