Thread: The Road to 5.0

Originally Posted by Ramesses

where is the Heart of Sabik now? It stands to reason that it if is even a fraction as powerful as Lahabrea says it is, then it did NOT get destroyed when we defeated Ultima.

This does not necessarily follow. Consider the "glass cannon" trope - something that's powerful, but fragile. To be fair, it's a millennia-old artifact so it can't be THAT fragile, but that doesn't have anything to do with its power.

Even so, I agree, particularly now that we know that Gaius somehow survived. I'm going to assume the Heart was destroyed until we learn otherwise, but it wouldn't be much of a stretch for the writers to bring it back if they need a MacGuffin or plot device.

Originally Posted by Theodric

Again, we'll just have to agree to disagree. Eorzea has a long and colourful history and has engaged in various shady acts over the years.

I do wonder why you keep bringing this up. How is this relevant to the Garleans' actions? "Eorzea does bad stuff, too" does not excuse Garlemand's bad stuff - and honestly, I don't think ANYONE has claimed that the nations of Eorzea are flawless angels. Bringing up this fact in no way supports your views on the nature of the Garleans - and you've noted yourself that their continued territorial expansion is motivated more by a feeling of "never again" rather than revenge against oppressors.

If you're implying that folks pick on Garlemand to the exclusion of picking on Eorzea, that's simply not true. There's been plenty of threads talking about the unfairness of the Elementals' rule in the Black Shroud, the shameful treatment of Kobolds in La Noscea, the unspeakable corruption of the wealthy in Ul'dah - it's just that those topics are rarely relevant in threads about Garlean policies, and so don't arise there.

It's possible that finger-pointing at Garleans happens more often - but this is largely because Eorzean problems haven't changed much since we learned of them. There was a lot of talk about Elementals years ago, for instance, but the Elementals haven't done any new atrocities lately and so that conversation has pretty much died off. The Garleans, on the other hand, seem to serve up a new batch of horrors whenever they enter the plotline. Yotsuyu's cruel and sanctioned oppression of Doma, Aulus's human experimentation, the murder by complicity of Fordola's parents, all cropped up in Stormblood, and it's only natural to call them out on these misdeeds.