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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    the battle system though... is not one of it's selling points... period
    In fact... Macro heavy battles are part of the reason FFXI wasn't the hit it could have been.
    That type of battle turned A LOT of people off....
    You can say "SE should please the FFXI crowd" but for every ex-FFXI player, there are 10 RPG gamers that SE wants to appeal to, and Menu based, macro heavy combat wont do it
    That's your personal opinion; and XI probably did poorly b/c it was originally released to console. If it had been released to pc, originally, w/ a "tapped out" graphics engine, it would probably have made it up there w/ the, alleged, "greats." Anyway, OP doesn't want to *replace XIV's battle system w/ XI's...he wants to have the option for either. It's not asking for much.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    Lastly... on a personal note.... battle macros leave me feeling disconnected from battle.
    Gone are the days when you "issue commands" to your character....
    Now.. You ARE your character... down to every swing of the sword or spell you use
    Menu based combat is as far inside the box as you can get....
    Challenge your brain to think outside it
    Change isn't always better...I dunno why ppl think that "change" automatically = "win." The action bar isn't really "outside the box" either. Like you said yourself, virtually every other MMO out there already does something similar. So, that's a moot point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    It absolutely toggles... There is a menu option that says... are you ready for this... "Toggle Macro Bar" under Configuration>system

    You're Welcome
    Thanks for that lol...they either added it later, or I didn't bother checking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natabant View Post
    That's your personal opinion; and XI probably did poorly b/c it was originally released to console. If it had been released to pc, originally, w/ a "tapped out" graphics engine, it would probably have made it up there w/ the, alleged, "greats." Anyway, OP doesn't want to *replace XIV's battle system w/ XI's...he wants to have the option for either. It's not asking for much.




    Change isn't always better...I dunno why ppl think that "change" automatically = "win." The action bar isn't really "outside the box" either. Like you said yourself, virtually every other MMO out there already does something similar. So, that's a moot point.



    Thanks for that lol...they either added it later, or I didn't bother checking.
    it isnt much of an opinion. the battle UI was criticized the world over by websites and gaming magazines for being clunky and was noted by critics for not having an action bar.

    Having to switch between action bars is nothing like what most MMOs do. pretty much every single MMO in existence allows for keybinding abilities to other buttons beside 1-0. even buttons like - = , / ` [ ] ; ' and so on are able to be keybinded to get rid of the need for more than one action bar to scroll through. the current system isnt the worst in the world but its by far less accessible than pretty much any MMO i can think of.
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    Last edited by Dreadnought; 02-16-2012 at 03:40 PM.
    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?