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    Louhi gender mistake?

    Hello,
    I was recently reading Louhi's FATE description and notice it refer to the voidsent with the male pronoun. In real world mythology and demonology Louhi is a wicked queen. While I know Final Fantasy creatures are loose representations of there real world mythological counterparts. I can't help but wonder if this is a translation error of some kind.
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    Last edited by Michizane; 08-27-2018 at 03:58 AM. Reason: mispelling

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    Its probably not a mistake. This Louhi was just named that way cause he was designed after a boss from Mystic Quest called Ice Golem. Or at least thats my depiction of the
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    Eh, FF games have always played it a bit fast and loose with mythological/religious figures and their gender. Look no further than Shiva.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysteltain View Post
    Eh, FF games have always played it a bit fast and loose with mythological/religious figures and their gender. Look no further than Shiva.
    I'm pretty sure Shiva isn't named after the Hindu god and is instead named cause how the japanese would say the english word "shiver"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michizane View Post
    I'm pretty sure Shiva isn't named after the Hindu god and is instead named cause how the japanese would say the english word "shiver"
    WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP SAYING THIS, GRRRR!!!!!!!

    Shiva is Shiva, the kana isn't anything but Shiva. It was never Shiver...

    I'll quote something I posted on another thread.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Okay to start, Japanese only has their set number of pronunciations, which in total is like 150 or so; its a really small number. English on the other hand has over 4,000 pronunciations, as well as many other non Asian influenced languages. in order to fix this, new characters were added to the Japanese Hiragana and Katakana charters to represent more "western" pronunciations. This is the reason why the myth that Shiva originally being Shiver is false since the characters for Shiva are シヴァ the last "two" being a new character to represent Va.

    The next thing to indicate is that there are certain characters that they use in place of some of our more "complex" sounds. Su representative of our Th is the most common example. These characters are actually what denote a similar sound in other languages not necessarily the corresponding letter. For example an elongated A or O sound would/could represent an Er sound. And while most people are aware of the changing of these characters with the " marks, they may not know that is to vocalize the sound, something we do in other languages naturally. In these instances its to show the reader that its the vocalized version, even if the translated letter isn't. This is the case with the Fantasy, in Final Fantasy, ファンタジー the final character is Ji the voiced version of Shi, to make the reader aware of the proper pronunciation.
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    Last edited by Eloah; 08-27-2018 at 06:34 AM.

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    To add to that... many representations of Shiva in Buddhism portray him with blue skin. Shiva, the Final Fantasy summon, has blue as her predominant color scheme across the entire franchise.
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    Looks like a guy to me also louhi similar to louie a guys name
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    Tsukuyomi is also male in Shinto, so switching genders is nothing new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    Tsukuyomi is also male in Shinto, so switching genders is nothing new.
    Thank you, can't tell you how much this irked me in game. At least they reference the change in the TT card.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP SAYING THIS, GRRRR!!!!!!!

    Shiva is Shiva, the kana isn't anything but Shiva. It was never Shiver...

    I'll quote something I posted on another thread.
    Cause it keeps appearing on Final Fantasy resource sites >.> Can't expect every English speaking player to know Katakana and Hiragana...
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