Suggestion: For Rising 2019

[Sigma-Astra]

Yes they can do it by law, but a company that wants to be successful and make money shouldn't make a habit of lying to customers.

They didn't necessarily lie to you though? They've kept them as exclusives for over five years and quite frankly, there was no statue of limitations involved or a contract signed stating that they couldn't change it, so they could have ended your exclusive rights to those earrings even sooner than over five years.

The company is successful and making money. You not liking one practice that they've done doesn't outright change that though. This type of thing isn't going to make or break their bank accounts no matter what.

People hate Final Fantasy XV with a passion and say it's the worst game in the series. But, unfortunately for them? It at least made them break even in sales and didn't destroy the company entirely as many had exaggerated.

Now, Spirits Within and 1.0.....ehehehe...

If there's a way to make money, a company will make money whether you think it's unfair or not, or don't like it or not.

[Cylla]

They didn't necessarily lie to you though? They've kept them as exclusives for over five years and quite frankly, there was no statue of limitations involved or a contract signed stating that they couldn't change it, so they could have ended your exclusive rights to those earrings even sooner than over five years.

The company is successful and making money. You not liking one practice that they've done doesn't outright change that though. This type of thing isn't going to make or break their bank accounts no matter what.

It a lie when you tell your player base that these items are exclusive to those who endured the painfulness of 1.0. If not for us, this game wouldn't be here today and it wouldn't be SE little cash cow. A cash cow may I remind you that is still a broken. Yeah sure, why have ANY respect for the people who stayed right up to the end.

Contract or no contract, you don't go telling a paying customer that something is exclusive to them and then some years later give it to everyone. That poor business no matter how you look at it.

And you may think, "Oh it not going to break the bank." and this one won't, but it just another thing that being pile on top of what already wrong/bad with this game and SE as company. One day, it will catch up to them.

[Sigma-Astra]

It a lie when you tell your player base that these items are exclusive to those who endured the painfulness of 1.0. If not for us, this game wouldn't be here today and it wouldn't be SE little cash cow. A cash cow may I remind you that is still a broken. Yeah sure, why have ANY respect for the people who stayed right up to the end.

Actually, if not for Yoshi-P, XIV wouldn't have had the makeover that it did, to be fair. The 1.0 players were the beta testers, unfortunately. But, ultimately? He was the one who actually turned XIV into something profitable, not the 1.0 players themselves essentially. They could have hired anyone besides Yoshi-P even with the 1.0 players and that director could have burned it further into the ground. The game is here because Yoshi-P took something terrible that he already knew was terrible from the last director, 1.0 players or not. No offense. Aside from the 1.0 players, we have ARR, HW, and SB players still funneling this game alive. It's not just about you guys. We're still here up to the end.

Contract or no contract, you don't go telling a paying customer that something is exclusive to them and then some years later give it to everyone. That poor business no matter how you look at it.

Actually, that's normal business practice. Every company besides SE will lie to their customer base in some form or way.

And you may think, "Oh it not going to break the bank." and this one won't, but it just another thing that being pile on top of what already wrong/bad with this game and SE as company. One day, it will catch up to them.

It's not. Years later, people will forget this event even existed and SE will still do what SE does whether you drop your sub fee over this or not.

[Fawkes]

Actually, that's normal business practice. Every company besides SE will lie to their customer base in some form or way.

Lying is not "normal" and shouldn't be excused just because other people also lie.

[Cylla]

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Ok, so what your sitting here trying to tell me is that the players of 1.0 had nothing to do with the game continuing on and we were only beta testers? ok.... lol
Hate to break this to you, but SE would've never looked at the game twice if nobody was playing it. Only reason Yoshi-P got singed on to remake the game was because of us who stayed.

But believe whatever you like cookie.

[Rogatum]

Ok, so what your sitting here trying to tell me is that the players of 1.0 had nothing to do with the game continuing on and we were only beta testers? ok.... lol
Hate to break this to you, but SE would've never looked at the game twice if nobody was playing it. Only reason Yoshi-P got singed on to remake the game was because of us who stayed.

But believe whatever you like cookie.

Just wondering what does that have to do with anything? Do 1.0 players want a cookie for sticking with a broken game? What is the relevance of being a 1.0 player in patch 4.0 and beyond? I mean truth be told beta tester is generous, I would say many 1.0 players were suckers that followed brand loyalty.

[Aerlana]

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They lied,
When yoshida said "no housing destruction" he lied (and also, he did " a thing from the past"... i think he regrets to said such strong sentence...)

But, if SE only knows how to lie to people, what the difference between them or activision, or Electronic arts?
If you live as a paranoid people, that consider everyone will lie to you, it is your matter. Me i consider people will try to do what they say, because a world where everyone lie is a world about to die.

I prefer glorify people staying honest, and spit on others.

Also you say "Yoshida made the game profitable, not the legacy players" you are right, BUT... Could this be done without the players? Without all those legacy players, the game would have ended simply...

What does it cost to staying honest to SE, and keeping 1.0 exclusiv the tenish stuffs they have?



AND MAINLY
WHY giving this white raven things to everyone and not simply create a new item? . . Oh yes, they lie, and also SB is the expansion when they work as less as possible, so hey... to long to create a ring, earring, helm or anything else. They have already enough work to fill the cash shop.

[worldofneil]

They lied,
When yoshida said "no housing destruction" he lied

To lie someone has to say something knowing it to be wrong. That "no housing destruction" line was said before housing had even been released.

I don't agree with a lot of SE's recent "policies", but I think it's unreasonable to hold them to something that, at the time it was said, was probably the truth. Things change. That and since then there were a lot of people on the forums complaining about "empty" houses and wanting them to be demolished. They added it because we demanded it.

[Sakuraluna]

They lied,
When yoshida said "no housing destruction" he lied

There were actually a lot of us here on the forums at the time who asked for that change, and for good reason. He gave us what we wanted. Just because it doesn’t line up with what was said before personal housing was implemented doesn’t mean we were knowingly lied to. Wards were absolute ghost towns before demolition came along. I distinctly remember having neighbors who hadn’t logged on in over a year, wards full and houses unused. This game just doesn’t have a player turnover that can support no demolition timer or even a rare timer. I agree with you that they have lied in the past, but not about this.

[Aerlana]

There were actually a lot of us here on the forums at the time who asked for that change, and for good reason. He gave us what we wanted. Just because it doesn’t line up with what was said before personal housing was implemented doesn’t mean we were knowingly lied to. Wards were absolute ghost towns before demolition came along. I distinctly remember having neighbors who hadn’t logged on in over a year, wards full and houses unused. This game just doesn’t have a player turnover that can support no demolition timer or even a rare timer. I agree with you that they have lied in the past, but not about this.

*look at the 72 wards, 144 if we make different between basis and annex* oh yes, nothing ghost now

Take a ward with only FC houses, add like 4-5 spot where you have instance personnal houses. and miracle, everyone can get house, no destruction required, no need of 72 wards, and so no need to call ghostbuster...