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    This spawning/despawning thing happens in other MMOs too, to help space out limited-time events and prevent people from bombarding it on day 1 and never doing it again.

    That's why they've staggered this one. Because you *can't* go in there alone and live, you'll get slaughtered. So they had to do it this way to make sure enough people would participate each time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormfur View Post
    This spawning/despawning thing happens in other MMOs too, to help space out limited-time events and prevent people from bombarding it on day 1 and never doing it again.

    That's why they've staggered this one. Because you *can't* go in there alone and live, you'll get slaughtered. So they had to do it this way to make sure enough people would participate each time.
    I was concerned about that too; when I missed it the first time, I was like, "What if the npc spawns again, I go inside, and there isn't enough players to clear the FATEs because of the odd timing? We're screwed!" XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamAngel-Ren View Post
    I was concerned about that too; when I missed it the first time, I was like, "What if the npc spawns again, I go inside, and there isn't enough players to clear the FATEs because of the odd timing? We're screwed!" XD
    It can happen. My first go was with one other player into a fresh instance. We managed to kill the Garleans but it wasn't even a contest on the Morbal. Left and got another fresh instance this time with lots of folks and after a bit of carnage and a few deaths was able to finish all the fates. I have no idea how the game is figuring the number of players to only group two as we had a bunch waiting around the recruiter and based on what I saw in the 2nd instance the other servers should have as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormfur View Post
    This spawning/despawning thing happens in other MMOs too, to help space out limited-time events and prevent people from bombarding it on day 1 and never doing it again.

    That's why they've staggered this one. Because you *can't* go in there alone and live, you'll get slaughtered. So they had to do it this way to make sure enough people would participate each time.
    Dont they have a system where the fate is scaled depending on the amount of players in it? So if somehow over the whole course of the event only a handful of people are in it, they would still be able to clear it if it scales to that. Or they could make it into a duty finder and give tomes as a price and people might just to it just for that. There are many more ways instead of just making something that they did not even communicate with us. (They could have also given more items to farm for thus people need to be there more than once..)

    Also tell us when it will pop because casual players dont have the time to wait for hours and hope that it spawns. If you are unlucky you might even miss this one..which never happened to any event before.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Dont they have a system where the fate is scaled depending on the amount of players in it? So if somehow over the whole course of the event only a handful of people are in it, they would still be able to clear it if it scales to that. Or they could make it into a duty finder and give tomes as a price and people might just to it just for that. There are many more ways instead of just making something that they did not even communicate with us. (They could have also given more items to farm for thus people need to be there more than once..)

    Also tell us when it will pop because casual players dont have the time to wait for hours and hope that it spawns. If you are unlucky you might even miss this one..which never happened to any event before.
    Whatever scaling they have is too much for two DPS. While there appeared to be fewer adds when two of us were in the instance the boss was still one hit and your done with a huge health pool. Just a guess but I would say they scaled things for an 8 player group on the low end although 4 may work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claviusnex View Post
    Whatever scaling they have is too much for two DPS. While there appeared to be fewer adds when two of us were in the instance the boss was still one hit and your done with a huge health pool. Just a guess but I would say they scaled things for an 8 player group on the low end although 4 may work.
    Hm you may be right. But if people already land in nearly empty instances then the feature seems to not be functioning that great either. If they had it there all the time people could at least try when they want to and should still find some people to clear it.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Why not make a damn schedule then? No one wants to check in every hour for 10 hours. People have jobs. Or need to sleep?! Basically everyone in my fc who knows there's a second part to the event has thrown it in the too hard basket cuz no one really cares about the earrings. The other half didn't even realise this instance existed. I've had to write in our company board explaining that you may have to wait 10 real life hours for this event.

    There's been some questionable decisions made recently but this one has really given me pause.

    I'm just super sad there's this great instance that people are going to choose to miss because it's too time gated to do.

    Man, when I thought this event was just bugged and they'd fix it I had a much more positive view on it. Now it's a complete 180. What a terrible, terrible event. Editing my other thread.
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    Last edited by Rockette; 08-28-2018 at 06:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockette View Post
    Why not make a damn schedule then? No one wants to check in every hour for 10 hours. People have jobs. Basically everyone in my fc who knows there's a second part to the event has thrown it in the too hard basket cuz no one really cares about the earrings. The other half didn't even realise this instance existed. I've had to write in our company board explaining that you may have to wait 10 real life hours for this event.

    There's been some questionable decisions made recently but this one has really given me pause.

    I'm just super sad there's this great instance that people are going to choose to miss because it's too time gated to do.
    A schedule of 3 hours up/10 hours down (if that's what is happening) means no one should miss the event since the spawn times will be changing daily. It's easy enough for someone to create a spreadsheet that will list the spawn times through the end of the event if it's a set pattern and post it. Then players can check to find the next spawn time convenient for their schedule.

    Assuming that is how it is timed, for the remainder of August the NA data centers will have start times of:

    Tonight (Aug-27/28) 2am EDT/11pm PDT

    Aug-28 3pm EDT/noon PDT

    Aug-29 4am EDT/1am PDT and 5pm EDT/2pm PDT (already hitting prime time for the east coast)

    Aug-30 6am EDT/3am PDT and 7pm EDT/4pm PDT (prime time central and mountain)

    Aug-31 8am EDT/5am PDT and 9pm EDT/6pm PDT (now prime time for west coast)

    Unless you're one of the rare people who have a totally crazy work schedule, it should be active at a time convenient for you sometime this week if this is a set pattern. Even if you do have such a schedule, with the event lasting 3 weeks it's bound to coincide with when you're online at some point.

    I got to do it last night and it was fun. I don't care about the earrings either but I did stock up on the novelty items. I plan to go back when I can to level up alt jobs since the XP per FATE looks to be good. I got 36.8k per FATE on 68 WHM compared to 32.4k I got when I did a level 50 standard NM FATE in CWH to compare. Certainly it will be a good change of pace for those leveling alt jobs in the 30-50 range and decent even for 51-60 (over 60 the XP doesn't amount to much but it's still a fun way to pass time).

    Don't let the awkward start get you down. It's worth doing at least once just for fun.
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    Even so, the poor way it has been handled so far has already left a bad taste in people's mouths. If a person's schedule means that they won't have an opportunity to do the instance until halfway through the event's run, or when the event is close to ending, it's hard to imagine that they'll enjoy it after waiting so long.
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    The community can all finally come together and agree on something. It's bad that the terrible execution of the 5th year anniversary event was the thing to do it.

    I'm hoping the respawn timer starts getting shorter the longer the event is going on.
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