Treading Dangerous Ground

[ChiefCurrahee]

lol nice try. yes, people voted for drastic changes.

yes, people voted for overhaul over faster updates and more talking.

yes, the majority voted for content over combat changes.
yes, the majority voted for content over armory changes.
yes, the majority voted for content over ui changes.
yes, the majority voted for content over market changes.

so in reading those poll responses. yes, people did vote for fundamental changes and when asked about which change they wanted most it was the change from having nothing to do to having more content. the order in which things are not in line with those votes.

we got ui changes, armory changes, market changes, and battle changes first. all of those were lower on the players votes. the overhaul people asked for was content over any other type. no method you can use will skew the numbers to show where battle was higher than content in the poll. it may be different using the math in your part of the world, but 36.8>24.2 where i am from.

nice try but, try again.

You're not looking at the big picture. In order for the game to have enjoyable lasting content, fundamental aspects such as combat, armory and UI changes had to be made first. They could have put in all the content under the sun in the launch version of XIV, but it would have been ruined by the crap UI, the crap battle system and the convoluted armory system.

[ChiefCurrahee]

You're not looking at the big picture. In order for the game to have enjoyable lasting content, fundamental aspects such as combat, armory and UI changes had to be made first. They could have put in all the content under the sun in the launch version of XIV, but it would have been ruined by the crap UI, the crap battle system and the convoluted armory system.

If anyone wants to argue against this, you can also take it up with Yoshi cause he said it himself:

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...98e4034b898102

The issue that players would first like to see addressed is a general lack of game content, followed by changes to the battle system. Looking further, it seems that the type of content most strongly desired is quests and miniquests, accounting for about 40% of the responses. The auction house has also made a solid showing among the responses, no doubt due in part to the fact that, as previously mentioned, many of the pollees are or were FFXI players. My initial reaction was to interpret this as players stating that they want more adventures in Eorzea! More gil and loot!

In line with this, I believe that significant changes to the battle system are necessary to create a style of combat that lends itself to the enjoyment of quests and miniquests. Following that logic one step further, it is equally necessary to bring about significant changes to the user interface to create a UI that lends itself to the enjoyment of the battle system. After all, there is no point in making thorough improvements to battle if the response and usability of the interface isn't capable of conveying those improvements to players.

[darkstarpoet1]

You're not looking at the big picture. In order for the game to have enjoyable lasting content, fundamental aspects such as combat, armory and UI changes had to be made first. They could have put in all the content under the sun in the launch version of XIV, but it would have been ruined by the crap UI, the crap battle system and the convoluted armory system.

the point is they were trying to say that the majority voted for one thing when using their own numbers showed their statement was incorrect. i didn't say they were doing things wrong by doing the changes the order they are doing them. i pointed out their statement was wrong and they did not go strictly by the poll results nor should they.

Much like you learn you can't ignore certain factors either.

yes, the factors were they voted for overhaul over either releasing things faster or talking more. that's not much of a choice. once they were compared side by side with content the majority voted there. yoshi even admits himself people voted for that first, but was unable to do that. it was not a bad decision on his part to fix the game first, but don't act like the poll was followed by the numbers completely because they were not.

as i already stated i am not saying they are wrong by going in the order they are doing things. i just stated they shouldn't have followed the numbers myself, but i'm not trying to pretend they are. they have reasons for not doing it, but then don't turn around and act like they are.