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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage View Post
    The point is that they're UNISEX, not male or female, did you miss the point were I mentioned clothes are clothes? or when I mentioned her clothes have the perfect excuse for being Unisex? Damn, I've even mentioned being non-binary myself in this very forum. I mention Lenna having a more feminine design because it contrasts Faris' and goes to the more obvious Amano style of being very androgynous, even Locke and Edgar can look feminine in Amano artworks while Squall looks very androgynous (I should know, I have the Amano artbooks for FF1 thru 10). Thanks for putting words in my mouth

    As far as the comparison to Setzer, it doesn't matter who inspired whom (and did I ever say HE insipred HER or are we just putting words in my mouth again?), that's why it's a comparison. The point is that her official outfit (and the one with the highest chance of us getting) is so similar to a male character's that basically saying "it can't be a male outfit because she's a girl" is...wrong.
    Okay, to start, I didn't put any words in your mouth. I've merely been elaborating on things you have said.

    Yes you did say cloths are cloths, and that her outfit has the highest chance to be unisex, but the way it was implied, it didn't show it as her outfit being unisex, just its chances.

    I also just was showing you how her outfits aren't "men's clothing", which is a part of the clues to her true gender. You mentioned her outfits resembling Bartzs, I just pointed out they resemble Lenna's and Krile's more.

    As far as the Setzer comparison, no you didn't state that he inspired her. But the direction that your sentence flows denote where the inspiration is from and where it is headed. It's because of that direction, that I just wanted to make you aware, in case you didn't know. It's like saying, your father resembles you, the direction of the statement is off.

    And as far as my final statement about the comparison between the sisters. I was more or less asking, why make the comparison, especially since you want unisex clothing. Comparing a more masculine outfit to a more feminine outfit make no sense in that regard. Admittedly, I could of worded it like that, so I understand the confusion.

    Faris is the rare example of an androgynous woman, instead of the more common androgynous man.

    I repeat I haven't put any words in your mouth. I've just been adding to the conversation; and providing you with some new info you might not of been aware of. You did mention your own preferences, and I apologize if you felt "attacked" over what I may have said. But, I personally don't care about those kinds of things, you are you, that's it.

    But this thread has semi been derailed lets get it back on track shall we.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
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    Indeed, let's agree we could have worded things differently and took them way overboard

    Getting back on track, we already got Firion's outfit, I'd reaaaaally like The Emperor's as well, or at least his snazzy hair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
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    I can't, I concede.

    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage View Post
    I'd reaaaaally like The Emperor's as well, or at least his snazzy hair.
    Oh, I agree, his outfit is like the definition of "fabulous" lol. Also now that I think about it, Zenos reminds me of him. Why has no one thought of villian outfits.

    It has been a pleasure conversing with you my good sir (bows)
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    You mentioned her outfits resembling Bartzs, I just pointed out they resemble Lenna's and Krile's more.

    As far as the Setzer comparison, no you didn't state that he inspired her. But the direction that your sentence flows denote where the inspiration is from and where it is headed.
    The direction of the sentence wasn't about which inspired the other. It was based on which outfit was under discussion. The topic White Archmage was addressing there was about Faris' outfit (the iconic one in her concept art and story) being wearable by male characters if/when it's brought into this game. Pointing out that a very similar one was worn by a male character is pertinent to that. Your addition that his outfit was actually based off hers was helpful, but doesn't change the direction of the discussion. (We already have his outfit here as unisex so no longer need to discuss whether it can be.)

    Your own discussion of the job outfits shown on her sprites wasn't particularly relevant, since those outfits aren't the ones that would be brought in as Faris' outfit. They're instead among the many examples of job gear that have been brought in as AF.
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    Last edited by Niwashi; 08-24-2018 at 09:47 PM.